I did not mean to buy much bitcoin. I just bought bitcoin every month for the last few years and did not really think about it. I checked my accounts this week, and my bitcoin position is now larger than my entire retirement portfolio.

This is not what I wanted when I started buying bitcoin. Now I am looking at my portfolio, and I am wondering if I am making a good decision by letting my bitcoin investment grow, or a bad one by not changing my portfolio.

I want to know what people who have invested in bitcoin for some time do in this situation. Do you sell some of your bitcoin, rebalance your portfolio from time to time, or just let your bitcoin investment grow? How do you handle your bitcoin?

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U want this to moon to $1,000,000 but expect to HODL forever and never sell or use for any purchases?

U expect this to moon while a $10 dollar transaction has a $4 fee for a "quick" (10 - 60 minute) delivery. Let me just sit here awkwardly while my payment is being processed. Have you people been to a McDonalds drive-thru? Imagine holding up the line for some nuggets because this thing needs to verify terabytes of transactions and then add it to the same huge blockchain by finding a nonce that takes billions of computers to solve?

Also a huge transaction fee for a small purchase on top of McDonald's overpriced dog meat.

Not to mention memory is being consumed by AI and will cost an arm and a leg in the future. Just to download the entire blockchain will be petabytes. Who knows how much memory will keep skyrocketing to.

Wake up and smell the overpriced McMuffins and Coffee. People want speed and small memory footprint and this thing is bulky and slow. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Tldr, just have more money. More capital = more gains too, without these world shenaningans, broke, being poor, overtime work, damn such a hassle.

I managed to save up around $325 from my paycheck and got my first BTC today, i feel like i bought at the right time but hey i'm happy with it, any advice for long term buying?

used wallet of satoshi to send a lightning transaction and it has been stuck on queued for 24 hours now, what can i do to resolve this? how long does it take to get fixed? i contacted their support but havent gotten an answer

How many people have at least 0.1 BTC out of the total number of Bitcoin holders?

Have you ever done fourier analysis on any BTC metric? If you do, have you found something interesting? Do you think is not worth it? Why?

With the assumption that Republicans are highly unlikely to change the bill to leave room for future prosecution of POTUS via State AGs (a core Democrat demand); the only way forward for this current version seems to be Republicans to hold both chambers.

What alternative version might be introduced in the 2027-2028 Congress that can get passed and signed by Trump in the next two years? Will Democrats continue to assert prosecution rights forever or is there a compromise Democrats are willing to accept that could still protect Trump from potential prosecution?

why trying so hard to convince an old man that has been wrong about bitcoin for the last 10 years? what interests do bitcoiners have to get Peter S approval opinion ? i don't get it

am i missing something?

why is he important in a space he "hates"? I know some of you don't care, but i keep seeing people SO worried about "he said this.. he said that.."

why tf matters??

not hate, im genuinely curious

Hi all, I am looking to buy BTC p2p, but before I do, is there a way in which I can check if the coins I purchase in advance are tainted? Is there a website or something this can be verified on?

I want to check this to avoid any problems in utilising the coin/s once purchased.

Thanks

Is this against your firm's rules? Did your firm make you sell your shares?

Just curious because I'm thinking about applying to a financial rep role (Series 7), but I'm down 50% on portfolio holdings of 100% FBTC.

I wonder if this concentrated holding is allowed at most firms? I also hold BTC in actual cold storage. Am I blocked from even applying since this isn't what most representatives should hold?

I am so proud! As of today, I now own 0.1 BTC with a average prive of 68,527.36 €. I started in September 2025, was there for the ATH and the fall afterwards. My next goal are 0.2 BTC ☺️

Just wanted to share that with someone!

How much of your savings are you keeping in BTC? Are waiting for the price to drop before you by BTC?

Newer to this and trying to understand the psychology before I'm tested by it. Everyone says "just hold" but I want to hear from people who were actually down bad at the worst point. Did you know it was the bottom, or did it just feel like it was going to zero like everyone said?

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I’m 14 Trying to find out if it’s worth it or not btws

I used wallet of satoshi and when i send some funds out it is stuck on queued, has anyone else experienced this? and what can i do about it?

I have a lightning wallet for spending and sending small amounts. I haven't used it in quite some time but today I have received multiple payments of a few sats a few $4 amounts, and even a $9 payment, in 24 hours.

Is this something to be concerned with? Why am I receiving so many sats out of no where?

I am going to just hold it for awhile before moving it but what is this all about?

For a long time, I thought Bitcoin was only about price—buy low, sell high, hope it goes to the moon.

The more I learned, the more I realised that's actually the least interesting part.

Bitcoin is the first form of money that no government, bank, or company controls. It's open 24/7, borderless, and anyone with an internet connection can participate. Whether you're sending value across the world or simply holding an asset with a fixed supply of 21 million coins, it's a fascinating experiment in financial freedom.

Will it replace traditional money? Maybe, maybe not.

Is it volatile? Absolutely.

But the idea that money can exist without a central authority is one of the most revolutionary concepts of our time.

Whether you're a Bitcoin believer or a sceptic, it's hard to deny that it has changed the conversation about money forever.

What's the biggest thing Bitcoin has taught you? I'm genuinely curious to hear different perspectives.

So I have tried a few platforms like Crypto.com, Kraken, and Wealthsimple but the reality is that I prefer the idea of having stocks. This being the case, can anyone suggest what stock best duplicates the movement of Bitcoin as a percentage? I've looked at MSTR, IBIT, and BTCX.B, but it is hard to see which one seems to move closest to the price of the crypto itself. Does anyone have any suggestions here? Any other stock that seems to move with Bitcoin the closest?

I started buying £100 of BTC every week 3 months ago. I’m 53 so will work till I retire on my 68th birthday. What do you recon it will be worth.

These are based on my personal experience running a Bitcoin technology company, working with accountants in the EU and the US, and many conversations I had with businesses recently.

1. Account blocks:

This, of course, is the most common problem, especially for businesses. If you are making transfers to exchanges to buy or sell bitcoin, you can expect a series of questions from your banks, or, worse, they may suspect you of providing crypto exchange services for your clients and may block your account.

This is a nightmare we as a bitcoin company were not spared with - we could not get an account on Revolut since we had bitcoin on our website and could not produce license documents. No way to communicate that we rely on our partners to provide services - of course, they won't spend time to read your terms and conditions or chat with you - they are too big to bother about small coffee shop owners or risky crypto apps.

1. Accepting is just unclear.

Businesses want to accept bitcoin and have a cleaner accounting trail- auto-offramp to Euro in some cases.

But they are confronted with setting up a BTCPay instance or dropping an NWC string or a lightning address to a payment tool.

Lightning address or NWC string is not as common as a bank's IBAN - still, they need to get one reliable Lightning setup.

But a business wallet is not a WOS you spin up for your friend to have their first sat. It should support Lightning, have liquidity, support good statement exports, be able to plug into existing account tools, and be either self-custody or compliant.

Even if you have an easy custodial wallet for your business, you are confronted with adding additional details to all the deposits from clients as part of the travel rule, which makes it a nightmare to accept bitcoin in a coffee shop for 10 euros.

1. Accounting breaks

Even if you manage to accept bitcoin, your account finds it incredibly hard to account for this, and also accounting for capital gains/loss comes with rate changes from the time of accepting and using this bitcoin.

Obviously you'll be using tools that will either not give a great export that you could use or plug into accounting software.

You'd need to hire crypto-expert accountants!

1. Taxes

You accept bitcoin - not sure about how this is treated from a tax perspective - if you auto-sell this incoming bitcoin to Euro - would the capital gain be 0 as you earned and instantly converted, or the first-in, first-out logic applied where you'd need to worry when you bought bitcoin to your wallet first time in ages.

It is not the willingness to pay taxes; it is knowledge of how to declare capital gains that comes with the bitcoin payments compliantly.

1. Business custody is not personal custody.

When you have multiple operators in an organization or a bigger company who have access to funds to spend on materials and services, you'd need governance and access to the funds.

Which gets way complicated with a self-custody wallet for business.

Bitcoin works - a free network - so cheaper payments, instant settlements and global acceptability.

All of these factors are a win for a business - but the banking, tooling, and process around it doesn't work. It does not make sense with all this friction.

Working on something interesting - but would love to get your thoughts on above.

Here's why I ask this. In the past when crypto was relatively new and you had small exchanges/companies handling stuff, yes if you kept your crypto on their platform and they went belly up or did a rug pull, you were stuck. Made total sense.

However today we have huge companies getting involved like Robinhood and I just saw Etrade is now offering crypto trading via Zero Hash. I get it, the same thing could happen on these platforms and if you don't own your keys, you're still stuck. But then I start to think about it in relation to owning stocks on these platforms. It's not like we own paper stock certificates that we can rely on if an exchange goes belly up. We are at the mercy of the SEC or FINRA or courts in that case.

So sure, owning your keys is still the best bet but is it so bad to invest in crypto on these platforms where we don't own our keys since we've been doing basically the same thing with stocks forever?

So yeah… I finally did it.

After years of working, saving, overthinking, and pretending I was waiting for the “perfect entry,” I moved about $48,000 of my savings into Bitcoin.

That’s basically most of what I’ve built from my job over the last few years.

Not some lottery money. Not daddy money. Just paychecks, side gigs, skipping dumb expenses, and trying not to blow it all on random stuff xD

I’m not saying this is smart. I’m not telling anyone to copy me. I know BTC can still drop 20–30% and make me look like a clown by next week.

But I’m 31, no major family responsibilities yet, and I’d rather take a real shot now than sit around for another 10 years saying “I should’ve bought more.”

I’m still keeping a small mining angle with oneminers too, so I’m not only relying on staring at candles like a stressed goblin. Plan is simple: hold long term, survive the ugly dips, ignore the noise, and see where this thing is in 10 years. Could be genius. Could be cope. Either way, I picked my lane.

Hi guys, I’m from the UK & I’ve only ever bought my bitcoin through Binance. As I understand it we can no longer do that. What’s your recommended platform for someone from the UK?

Edit: Thanks for the replies all, much appreciated

I am all in btc, and currently have 0.03(all my networth), and I make 2900 usd a month before tax and spending. Is there any way for me to reach 1 coin1-10 coins in a foreseeable future. (Let’s say 5 years) I just don’t know how there are so many people have a lot of money just to invest. I can barely break even sometimes, the rent is my highest spending, I was thinking maybe just living in my car. But I do need some advice, I can pull out probably $200 max every two weeks. Can you guys share your stories of how you have a whole coin or accumulate aggressively. Thank you

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BTC gains could be a great way to tap into this hot market

Would like to invest. Where would you recommend I start?

Context: I’m 35M and I wanna escape the matrix and get rich quick and easy. Bitcoins at an all time low and based upon the charts in October it will skyrocket. I’m considering selling my car to just dump the cash in bitcoin.

... for gambling addicts. Because it is a 'meme' asset (or store of value or whatever you believe it to be), "if we all believe in it, it can only go up, right?" Unlike tulips, racehorses, equities, or any other speculative investment -- bitcoin has absolutely no fundamentals underlying it. It's just pure belief, maybe pure Nietzschean will to power.

The only limit to liquidity is when people (retail investors) need the money for something else, like rent. So the swings in value you see are nothing much more than the ebb and flow of disposable income among gamblers.

One branch of behavioral economics has speculated that money has a "drug" value, where the investment is more about the internal emotional reward that you are getting from the process (just like in going to a casino) than the convertible value of the asset itself. What you are really HODLing on to is the process addiction of anticipating gains, and the thrill of the risk, and the emotional rollercoaster of checking your portfolio, etc etc. The "bitcoin investment" is just what Alfred Hitchcock would call a MacGuffin.

Anyhoo, hope you guys are having fun at the track.

I am very much confident of a bottom within a few weeks. Bitcoin isn't going helow 60k.

Hey guys I started the my dca 2 weeks ago, but I’m getting a lot of people advising to sell the last few days, saying we are going to do another 20-30% dump.. essentially the argument is that we are entering a no more cheap money period, and we aren’t getting rate cuts any time soon, there’s no halving in the next few years so there are no bullish catalysts.. and the technical setup isn’t great. Whats everyone doing rn? We adding, holding or trimming?

I was on the fence but now I'm starting to think it might be the only way.

What are you guy's thoughts?

In other words, in order to withdraw my own money, they are asking me to prove where the money I earned throughout my life came from, how I acquired the assets I own, and to document all of them. It is unacceptable for a financial institution to make it this difficult and almost impossible for a user to access their own money.

If you own real estate, they ask for the title deed, sales documents, and the source of the money you earned before purchasing that property; for example, how you acquired a property you bought 20 years ago, official documents if it was inherited, documents proving your gold holdings if you own gold, records related to your vehicle if you own one... In short, they are asking me for official documents regarding all my assets and proof of the sources through which I acquired those assets.

They are asking me to provide documents that even the Ministry of Treasury and Finance does not require from you. Under what authority?

The worst part is that I do not have any assets or wealth at all. Despite telling u/okx this repeatedly, they continue to request the same documents from me over and over again. They keep repeating the same things like a parrot. They are refusing to give me my own money. This is a completely bad-faith approach and a way of victimizing users. Additionally, when I shared my situation in the u/okx Telegram chat group, they deleted my message and immediately banned me. I know that u/okx may respond to this message by asking me to send my information through private messages and promising to solve my problem. However, I have already done this at least 5 times, and every time I received the same response without any solution. I should also mention that I do not have a significant amount of money on u/okx , only a small amount, but I wanted to point out how bad-faith this platform's approach is.

I know that they have victimized thousands of users in this way. When you add up small amounts such as 100 USD or 200 USD from thousands of people's accounts, it becomes a significant amount of money. You can imagine what u/okx is doing with these funds by taking small amounts of money from thousands of users in this way.

This is clearly a method of fraud. It is unjustly taking people's money. This could happen to you at any time. Your money is never safe. I absolutely do not accept this bad-faith approach of u/okx towards its users. Therefore, always keep your funds in your personal wallets or store them on large and reliable exchanges such as Binance.

What happened to me has also happened to thousands of people on u/okx , and users have been victimized. I make small transactions with small amounts on exchanges. I send small amounts to my hot wallet in order to participate in airdrops and buy newly launched meme tokens on DEXs, trying to earn some profit. Despite these being the only activities I perform, u/okx is deliberately delaying the process and constantly avoiding returning my money.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND IF YOU HAVE MONEY ON u/okx , DO NOT KEEP YOUR FUNDS THERE.

Today my account was suspended; tomorrow it could be yours. You may be forced to prove your assets and sources of income from years ago just to withdraw your own money. If you are willing to take such a risk, the decision is yours.

What would happen to my dca strategy in strike if a hard fork came to happen with BIP 110 and stuff. Would it halt because there is no definition of what bitcion actually is at that time?

I do not like the idea of government and Bitcoin getting cozy with each other. But I wonder if politically there was a push to have more Bitcoin mining done in that specific country so that the country was more on a Bitcoin standard as a whole.

I'm just spit balling here.

I’m trying to separate the hype from the reality.

Did David Sacks actually accomplish anything meaningful for Bitcoin while serving as the White House AI & Crypto Czar, or was he mostly a symbolic appointment and political payback from DJT?

Specifically:

• What concrete policies, executive actions, or regulatory changes can be directly attributed to Sacks?
• Did he have any real influence over Bitcoin adoption or crypto regulation?
• Were there any promises that never materialized?
• If he had never been appointed, would anything have played out differently?

I’m not looking for partisan takes. I’m looking for evidence. What did he actually do versus what he got credit for?

Interested in hearing from people who’ve followed the policy side closely.

I have it on paper in my house hiding inside a wall???? but my mind thinks what happenss if i get flooded or my house gets on fire, so i replaced with a metal note but i still think that is not safe enough? What do you guys do?

There's a few "facts" that should be stated:

1. Fiat Currencies (USD, Euro, etc...) are controlled by GOVERNMENTS and these governments continue to spend MORE than they take in (aka "deficit spending"). This has invariably led to printing extra currency and creating the inflation that comes with it. It also means that if you choose to save in Fiat Currency you have the very real problem of ensuring that your savings growth EXCEEDS whatever the printing/inflation rate is. Otherwise, the purchasing power of your savings can decline.
2. Bitcoin is controlled by NO ONE (or "everyone") and, has a fixed limited supply (21 million BTC) and CANNOT be printed whenever some central power feels like doing so. This means that Bitcoin CANNOT experience inflation. It also means that if you choose to save in Bitcoin, NO ONE can erode your purchasing power (of course, this does require that Bitcoin become accepted/adopted as a viable commodity - something that is happening, but perhaps more slowly than we would like).
3. Central Banks (like the US Federal Reserve) are NOT thrilled about Bitcoin. If people choose to move their savings OUT of Fiat Currency (like USD) and INTO Bitcoin, that means that those banks (and the currencies they control) LOSE power. Obviously, they do NOT want to lose power. Thus, central banks, throughout the world, have taken significant action to destroy, restrict and control Bitcoin. They are NOT winning that battle, but they DO continue to fight.
4. Bitcoin adoption/acceptance continues to increase. Each year, more and more people own Bitcoin. This trend is rather overt. As adoption/acceptance increases, so has more mainstream involvement in Bitcoin. In 2024 Bitcoin ETFs were (finally) approved by the SEC and the influx of USD into Bitcoin ETFs on Wallstreet was enormous. In 2025, Bitcoin Treasury companies started emerging regularly. In 2026, Bitcoin products/investment vehicles popped up (Bitcoin loans, STRC/SATA, etc...).

So what does this mean, in terms of Bitcoin's future?

1. As our world continues to adopt/accept Bitcoin more and more, the price of Bitcoin in Fiat Currency will go up, simply because more and more people will want/need Bitcoin. A secondary feature is that Bitcoin's price increases (in Fiat Currency denominations) because Bitcoin does NOT have inflation - that is, Bitcoin's price increase simply because Fiat Currencies devalue - a $1 today buys LESS than a $1 10 years ago, etc....
2. The timeline for Bitcoin adoption/acceptance is more difficult to assure. Governments and Central Banks continue to try to protect their Fiat Currency by curtailing Bitcoin, but it is a losing battle. Some Governments and Central Banks are adopting the "If you can't beat them, then join them" attitude when it comes to Bitcoin.
3. In the longer term, Bitcoin is a superior form of savings/currency and, IMO, it will prevail over Fiat Currency. Yes, it might be a bumpy ride along the way, but, in general, superior products win out (consider Uber/Lyft vs. Taxi's, GPS vs. Paper maps, Cellphones vs. Land lines, TV vs. Radio, Internet vs. Libraries/Phonebooks, etc...).

Okay, okay. So what about the actual future price of Bitcoin?

1. Currently, about 15% of the world's wealth is "stored" in Gold and about 1% is stored in Bitcoin. Over time, we are seeing that "storage" shift (from Gold and into more Bitcoin). If Bitcoin captures even 5% of that world "wealth storage" the price of Bitcoin will exceed $500k per coin (or more). I like to refer to this as the "Gold Replacement Theory." Bitcoin has significant advantages over gold (easier to store, easier to divide, easier to transport, etc...). Again, as adoption/acceptance increases, Bitcoin becomes more of an obvious improvement over Gold.
2. The current adoption of Bitcoin is increasing rapidly. Most analysts agree that Bitcoin is advancing at a faster rate than the Internet advanced. This is great news for Bitcoin. IMO, I believe that we will only see more and more adoption (despite setbacks) and that in the next 5 years (or less) much of the price increase that I describe above will be experienced. Am I being too optimistic? I don't think so. Logic and history speak loudly here. People often have a hard time realizing when something obvious is changing their world. I remember so many people saying, "the Internet is a teen fad." It seems silly to say that NOW, but back then that's how it was perceived - they just could NOT see the implications of where it was going. I believe that, currently, many people have a similar "blindness".

On July 13, US government-linked wallets moved 3,940 Bitcoin and 30,014 Ether, roughly 297 million dollars combined, into Coinbase Prime custody. Sale speculation followed immediately.

The detail almost nobody is explaining clearly: Executive Order 14233, which created the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, only protects Bitcoin from sale. Ether and other seized digital assets fall under a separate framework where Treasury has discretion. So the 244 million in Bitcoin here is protected on paper, the 53 million in Ether is not.

The Bitcoin traces to two forfeiture cases, roughly 2,875 BTC from a dark web dealer known as Xanaxman and about 925.5 BTC linked to the old BTC-e exchange. The Ether comes from a former Oracle employee's money laundering case.

Worth noting too that a deposit to Coinbase Prime is not proof of an impending sale. The Marshals Service has an active custody contract with Coinbase Prime specifically for managing seized assets, and similar transfers in January, May, and June this year did not result in confirmed liquidations.

The bigger structural point is that Executive Order 14233 is policy, not statute. Congress introduced a bill in May to codify the reserve with a 20 year holding requirement, but it has not moved out of committee. Until it does, Bitcoin's protected status here rests on one administration's choice, reversible by the next.

Full writeup with sourcing:

https://davidebtc186.substack.com/p/the-us-government-just-moved-297m

Is bitcoin finally starting to bottom out? I know that this has been one of the significant drops in bitcoin in recent history but when is it finally gonna bottom out into we enter into the bullish trends.

What's everyone's plans in when they are going to be investing and doubling down?

I’m starting to think BTC has alerts for my bad decisions.

Sold some around 58k thinking I was being smart.

Then BTC said “bet” and started pumping right after xD

Now I’m coping like:

“profit is profit”
“still holding most of it”
“totally planned this”

Spoiler: I did not plan this.

Good thing I still have some mining exposure through OneMiners, so at least my BTC brainrot has a backup lane lol.

Maybe I didn’t sell BTC. Maybe I just unlocked the pump for everyone else.

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That'd be sweet.

Warning to scammers: Don't waste your time DMing me. These are completely blank, zero-balance wallets generated locally strictly for testing bulk import scripts. There are zero funds involved, so save your breath and do not bother me.

I used a bash script to bulk import hundreds of extended private keys (xprv) into a Legacy Bitcoin Core wallet. The import was executed using the "importmulti" RPC command, utilizing output script descriptors with checksums (example format: wpkh(xprv...)#checksum).

Problem:

I need an efficient way to verify that Bitcoin Core successfully digested these keys and that the wallet holds the spendable rights ("ismine": true) for the generated addresses.

What I have tried (and why it failed):

Command tried: bitcoin-cli listdescriptors

esult: Threw error "Method not found (code -32601)".

Issue: If the flag is missing (as it is in Legacy wallets), it seems to instantly throw the method not found error

Command tried: bitcoin-cli listreceivedbyaddress 0 true

Result: Did not output the newly imported keys.

Source: In the Bitcoin Core source code (src/wallet/rpc/transactions.cpp), the listreceivedbyaddress function iterates over CWalletTx (transactions) and mapAddressBook (labels). Because the imported addresses have zero transactions and were imported without a specific "label" string, they do not exist in either map and are completely ignored by the output???

Command tried: bitcoin-cli getaddressinfo [address]

Result: This works individually to confirm "ismine": true.

However, because legacy wallets don't store the xprv natively, this requires first running the "deriveaddresses" RPC on every single xprv descriptor to find the anchor address before checking it. Doing this for hundreds of keys in a bash loop is highly inefficient.

Command tried: bitcoin-cli dumpwallet [file]

Thought process: Dumps the entire keypool to disk, allowing me to count total keys using grep.

Result: did not work. Also very stupid fix.

Source: https://developer.bitcoin.org/reference/rpc/dumpwallet.html. Also this is slow as heck.

Warning to scammers: Don't waste your time DMing me. These are completely blank, zero-balance wallets generated locally strictly for testing bulk import scripts. There are zero funds involved, so save your breath and do not bother me.

26 y/o. My significant other & I pretend we don’t have them, don’t touch it, we’ve never sold.

But just out of curiosity, does everyone in it for the long haul (20-30 years) ever think about selling?

I think the Bitcoin narrative should switch from "you are going to be rich" to "you may be more free".
Even if all the countries in the world would ban Bitcoin it would mean nothing, because the network it's going to work anyway. It's not a thing you can choose to ban in one day.

The extreme scenario is that every state would coordinate an operation to steal all the Bitcoin nodes in the world, even the small ones inside the houses of ordinary people. But how possible is this to happen?

As long as the world is going in the "right" direction (prosperity, cooperation, innovation), is fair to say the price should remain low. And now a question: could the increase of Bitcoin price show how much people put trust in the governments? Could the price of Bitcoin indicate the median "value" of the freedom in the world? (higher value/price = high chance we are going toward a dictatorship regime).

If there were a data leak from your exchange, or if the tax filings your government requires got exposed, would you still feel safe?

I went to buy bitcoin today, like I always do once a month and found out my state banned them. I always took cash and bought bitcoin. What options do I have now that dont involve using a credit card/bank card ? Can you buy bitcoin with a gift card/vanilla card ?

Edit: I do not want to link my credit card/debit card or my bank to bitcoin. This is what I am trying to avoid.

I am going to use Coinbase and purchase bitcoin with vanilla card. Seems to be the easiest.

2025 marked the first time in over 50 years that the U.S. experienced net-negative migration—or at least a near-zero drop. That alone is a macro shock. But it’s showing up in an odd place: crypto narratives.abcnews+2

A lot of commentators now act as if influencers must straddle two worlds: the old 4-year crypto cycle and whatever new cycle is forming around AI, compute, and agent-driven internet activity.

Take Charles Hoskinson’s forecasts:

• By 2029, a $50B/year market for confidential compute, with ~75% of AI inference running in trusted execution environments.
• By 2035, most searches, commerce, and online activity driven by AI agents, not humans. Humans end up in a “human internet” zoo while the “real” economy runs agent-to-agent on the global internet.

Those are strong claims about compute becoming the scarce, valuable asset. And yet, we’re also seeing a historic contraction in net migration—something that should, in theory, reshape labor, consumption, and tech adoption.finance-commerce+2

From a social-science lens, that tension is awkward. Psychology usually models behavior with bidirectional strategies (stimulus ↔ response, belief ↔ action), not a clean triarchy of “migration–compute–crypto.” There’s no obvious law of conditioning that says Hoskinson’s math should map neatly onto net migration trends. If anything, the “conditioning” for his followers already ran its course; now it’s more about status, narrative control, and who gets to keep commentating while Trump dominates the immigration/“job board” narrative.

My working theory:

• Compute became exclusive through cryptocurrency (mining, GPUs, data centers, tokenized access).
• That exclusivity started affecting offline behavior—hiring, migration choices, even which metros grow or shrink.whitehouse+1
• People who arrived “late” to Bitcoin still caught up if they had access to compute. In that sense, buying compute may matter more than timing your coin entry.
• A lot of shitcoins might actually work against the long-term compute economy by fragmenting capital and attention.

That doesn’t fully explain the loss in net migration. But it raises a question: if there were enough compute (and data) to model it properly, would we see a clearer link between crypto/compute dynamics and migration flows—or is this just a convenient narrative overlay on a policy-driven shock?

I’d rather not make money on shitcoins. There are legitimate people who came to Bitcoin late but leveraged compute to catch up. Maybe the real trade isn’t “which coin,” but “who owns the compute.”

Had a reflection while I was printing some statements for tax purposes, that I was doing the exact opposite of what Bitcoin stands for. So what do you think of the future?

Do you HODL expecting to eventually sell at a profit, or do you believe that in the future it will be used as a relevant currency?

Time for a wallet upgrade. What are you’re thoughts on Passport Prime?

Bitcoin buyers appear to be absorbing sell pressure more effectively around the $65,000 area, according to analysis tied to exchange flow data. The signal comes after Binance posted its largest single-day net outflow in nearly two years, with more BTC leaving the platform than entering. Onchain analytics firm CryptoQuant highlighted that Binance withdrawals have recently been running ahead of deposits—an environment traders often watch for because it can indicate reduced immediate supply on the exchange order book. Still, analysts caution that exchange outflows alone do not confirm a fresh, sustainable uptrend. Key takeaways CryptoQuant data shows Binance daily netflows have oscillated

When I first explored crypto wallets, I thought every wallet app created a completely separate account.Later I learned that what really matters is the recovery phrase.Different wallet apps can access the same wallet as long as they're compatible and you have the correct recovery phrase.That small realization made the whole idea of self-custody much easier to understand.

Was there any beginner misconception that took you a while to figure out?

Sharing this month's work, leading with the Bitcoin Core part since that's the most relevant here.

Bitcoin Core mining over IPC

Bitcoin Core's multiprocess build exposes a mining interface over Cap'n Proto IPC. mkpool now has an optional path that uses it instead of polling getblocktemplate over JSON-RPC:

• Templates come straight from the node's Mining interface (createNewBlock / waitNext), so a new template arrives as soon as the node has one, with no GBT poll loop.
• Solved blocks go back through submitSolution, and I keep the classic submitblock path as a redundant, bounded fallback so a found block is never lost.

Lower template latency and a cleaner block-submit path than scraping JSON-RPC, and it lines up with where Core's mining interface is heading. This combined with Stratum V2 gives you the fastest possible low latency way to mine Bitcoin. You can try it out today on mkpool.

Also shipped this month

• Bidirectional Stratum V2 <-> V1 translator: point a Noise-encrypted SV2 ASIC like a Bitaxe at any plain V1 pool, or point plain V1 rigs at an SV2-only pool. Tested end to end on a real Bitaxe over Noise.
• Scale-out roles (proxy / redirector / passthrough / clustering node) for multi-region and HA setups.

It stays genuinely solo: your payout address is your username, the coinbase is rebuilt per session, and a found block pays straight to your wallet. No pool custody.

Public pool: https://mkpool.com/

Repo (GPLv3): https://github.com/Mecanik/mkpool

Benchmark writeup: https://mkpool.com/blog/mkpool-vs-ckpool-benchmark

Happy to answer technical questions, especially on the IPC side. Not selling anything; the engine is open source.

What happens on that block for nodes and miner who don't support BIP-110 ?

My node does not support BIP-110 and will stay that way. What are the consequences?

There was a time when I honestly had no idea what to do next.

I lost the job I had been at for 5 years. The first few days were a complete shock. The only thoughts in my head were: "What now? What am I supposed to do?"

The hardest part wasn't even losing the job. The hardest part was feeling completely lost. It felt like everyone around me was moving forward while I was stuck in the same place.

Honestly, if it wasn't for my family, it would have been much harder. Instead of blaming me, they simply said, "We'll figure it out." That support gave me the strength not to give up.

After a while, I realized there was no point in sitting around waiting. I started looking for different ways to make money. I watched videos, tried different things, made mistakes, and wasted time. Then one day I accidentally came across crypto testnets.

At first, I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. But little by little, I started figuring things out.

And honestly, it wasn't even about crypto. For the first time in a long time, I felt like I was in control of my life again. Small steps, but moving forward.

If you're interested in how crypto testnets work, I already have a post about them. If you can't find the information you're looking for online, feel free to message me. If I can help, I'd be happy to. And just to be clear, I'm not selling anything.

I'm sharing this because I know what it's like to be in a place where it feels like there's no way out. If you're going through a tough period right now, just know that it won't last forever.

I'm genuinely curious. Have you ever had a moment when life suddenly didn't go according to plan? What helped you get through it?

Passed by the State Duma yesterday (July 21). Not a rumor, not someone's translation of a Telegram post, the actual bill. Here's what's in it:

• New licensing registry for exchanges, custodians, and brokers. Existing platforms get roughly a year to register.
• Retail investors can buy the most liquid crypto assets (bitcoin is the obvious flagship candidate, the report doesn't name the full list) through a registered intermediary, after passing a knowledge test.
• Cap for retail: 300,000 rubles (~$3,900) per year, per intermediary.
• Qualified investors also have to pass a test, but face no purchase cap. Prior trading history can count toward qualifying.
• Owning ≠ spending. This bill legalizes buying and holding bitcoin, it does not legalize using it as money. Paying for groceries in bitcoin is still banned domestically, so the ruble keeps its monopoly on everyday transactions.
• Carve-outs: foreign-trade settlement, mined crypto, and some securities transactions are exempt from that ban.
• Banks are required to block transfers to anyone they suspect of running an unregistered exchange.

Timeline: first reading was back in April. Most provisions are set to take effect Sept. 1. It still needs to clear the Federation Council and get signed into law, expected, but not done yet.

The part worth sitting with: a government that's spent years treating bitcoin as a threat to its monetary sovereignty just built a formal, licensed path for its own citizens to buy it. Gated by an exam and a spending cap, but a path. That's the move a state eventually makes once it accepts it can't kill the protocol, it regulates the door instead.

Source: The Block / The Bitcoin Act

I track moves like this across dozens of jurisdictions, if anyone wants the source link or a country-by-country comparison, ask below and I'll drop it.

Genuine question for the sub: does "exam + cap to start, uncapped once you qualify" count as a country actually opening the door to bitcoin, or is it just a more polite capital control? Where's the line for you?

Hello im trying to buy btc trough binance but the app says they are nit avilable methods for me? Why is that i always buy 200 dollar everymonth being doing this 4 years and now i cant buy anymore

I just logged onto my Coldcard Q for the first time since late last month and discovered all my bitcoin is gone. I haven’t done anything to compromise my security that I’m aware of.
Is anyone aware if any type of issues going around with coldcard’s security?
I’m at a loss as to how this could have happened.

I just bought Bitcoins for the first time yesterday from Kraken but so it's tied to my identity. I do not wish to have bitcoins publicly tied to my name as the privacy is the fundamental of the cryptos, so i would like to anonymize it, I saw what happened to Samurai/Tornadocash getting persecuted and it's sad so unusable protocol now.

Where do you make your bitcoins private? (It's not a tax evasion if you're asking, i already paid while buying and will pay if i do profits to my bank account obviously, i just want to hold freely).

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https://btc.rottenwheel.com/

- Repository: https://github.com/rottenwheel/bitcoin-only-hugo

Upstream repository is in Vue/Nuxt, it's been ported from that, to hugo and it's live in my btc subdomain.

Upstream: https://github.com/bitcoin-only/bitcoin-only

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The Matrix is a system Neo, and that system, is our enemy...

I just bought bitcoin and put it into a cold wallet, after so many years of thinking it's a Ponzi scheme or whatever, but I understand it now, it's not a quick get rich scheme, it's not about being rich, I've chosen the red pill.

I'm a proud bitcoin holder.

Was mulling building a 8 card set-up

Especially if they be saying something like "your cold wallet is compromised click the link to save it" and then you will be directed to enter your seedphrase. So many people have fallen into this scam. Do Not care about it.

Any cold wallet companh will NEVER contact you like this.

It's also surprising how the scammers are smart to hide their email and make it as close as possible to each brand. Could be coldcard, coinkite, trezor, ledger, and else.

Just make sure your seedphrase NEVER enters any DIGITAL devices or INTERNET! Keep it safe. Add passphrase too if you understand passphrase. And learn how to use sparrow with your wallet.

And for more, learn the air gapped methode.

I've been working on something called Mochi and wanted to share it here.

The short version is it's a creator platform built entirely on Lightning. Creators get a page where they can accept tips, sell digital products, and run subscriptions. All in sats.

The thing that makes it different from just pasting a Lightning address somewhere is the wallet system. Supporters load sats into a Mochi wallet and subscriptions pull from that balance automatically. It solves the biggest problem with recurring payments on Lightning since there's no native way to do pull payments. No expired cards, no chargebacks, no failed invoices. Load once, subscribe, done.

You log in with a seed phrase. No email, no KYC. Anyone can visit a creator's page and tip via QR without making an account. Accounts are only needed when someone wants to subscribe or buy something.

I built it because I was tired of using Patreon and Gumroad and handing over a cut to platforms that don't even support bitcoin. The tools on those platforms are good but the rails are wrong.

Still early. Looking for the first 100 creators to try it out. Founders get a permanently lower fee locked in forever.

Would love honest feedback from this community. What works, what doesn't, what's missing. Thanks everyone! Hopefully this can fill a void.

mochi-pay.com

Hey ,,I've been building btcdash.org, a free Bitcoin dashboard. Just shipped a new section tracking spot ETF flows: daily net inflows/outflows, total ETF holdings, per-fund breakdown, NAV premium/discount and Coinbase premium.

New version is live: btcdash.org/bitcoin-etf-flows/

Take a look and let me know what you think — what's missing, what's useful, what you'd change. I shipped two feature requests same-day last time someone suggested them.

I just watched this podcast episode where BlackRock's Head of Digital Assets Research (Will Su) said that the quantum threat is what's keeping Bitcoin from being mass-adopted.

From his words, "some of the folks that would've certainly come in to engage with Bitcoin have probably held back a bit because of this quantum question," and when asked by the host whether the concern is "meaningfully affecting adoption", his answer was: "Yes. 100%."

So I'm wondering, why are we delaying the response for this threat, especially if that is going to bring in more investors (and, well, more importantly, protect Bitcoin from quantum computers)? I've seen multiple proposals to start addressing this, the one on top being BIP 360 (P2MR)

Any thoughts? Am I missing something here?

This is the episode I'm talking about: https://youtu.be/Puv7Yyymy6M

Im tryint to swap BTC into other assets without a CEX, It's kinda confusing as every route I find either requires KYC, has liquidity thin enough that the rate is terrible, or involves wrapping BTC.

What are you guys using for straightforward (and non-custodial) Bitcoin swaps?

Hypothetically, let's say a location close by to you becomes an attractive draw for Bitcoiners.

Merchants move in who want to accept BTC payments. Open source developers or BTC companies moved in. Miners, plebs, etc.

Would you consider moving there, if it meant you were surrounded by more Bitcoiners, and gave you more opportunities to interact with and adopt BTC?

If yes, how far would you consider relocating for an opportunity like that?

What important fixtures do you think a citadel needs to be effective in attracting Bitcoiners?

Every once a while, somebody's asking for price data for a project like DCA calculator. Here's one I just came across: https://www.btbjb.com/data/btc_daily.csv

Saw it at https://www.btbjb.com/en/ and it contains Bitcoin daily historical closing prices from 19 Jul 2010 to 21 Jul 2026. The current dataset contains 5,846 daily records, with the latest closing price at $66,399 (UTC date 21 Jul 2026).

I need USD to secure a downpayment on a real estate deal (Florida, USA) within the next week or so. I have a sizeable bitcoin portfolio and want to use this as leverage for a fiat loan, as I'd prefer not to sell to avoid tax hit and missing out on future upside.

It seems like the bitcoin loan market has matured a lot in the last few years. The platforms I'm looking at currently are:

1. Ledn - seem like they have the strongest track record and survived the FTX crashout. Was impressed they now have a BBB- investment grade rating and they publish monthly proof of reserves. they also have an auto top up tool to manage liquidation risk. APR seems to be 10.5% for the amount I'm looking at though, which is on the slightly higher end.

2. Morpho / Coinbase borrow - crazy good APR, but not sure I'm comfortable with having so much collateral tied up with defi, especially following the aave / kelpDAO exploit a few months ago. I also don't know if wrapping my BTC to cBTC would count as a taxable event (?). This would be my first choice though if it's legit and not overly risky.

3. Unchained - I really like the idea of keeping control of my own keys. The APR would be ~14% though which is obviously quite high. But given that security is my main consideration I'm not against paying that if it's the safest option.

This is a really important financial decision so want to make sure I get it right. I'm relatively experienced in using leverage, so have thought through carefully the different price action scenarios.

Please let me know if you have any direct experience with getting bitcoin loans and your experience with the platform. I'm very open to other platforms too, these were just the ones from my (mainly just internet-based) research.

There's been countless posts of BTC going down a new leg this quarter but why has the renewed war and rising oil prices not been the catalyst?

This week I emailed all 7 lenders on my comparison list. I asked the same questions to everyone: real rates, margin call levels, liquidation threshold, and collateral management.

One replied within 48 hours. The rest is silence so far.

What is the one thing you would demand to know before pledging a single sat as collateral?

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3 years ago I decided I would buy BTC every single day until I reached this goal. And today, I just reached 1.00015501 :)

It feels surreal but here we are! Will continue to buy everyday! Especially since October 5 is just around the corner!

I have reason ti believe 4 year cycle is dead .

But not in the bullish manner .

I mean people throughout 2025 and even 2026 expected bulls to break the model . But no one hardly fathom that bear markets can also breaks the assumptioms...

Now lets understand the assumption.

3 years up 1 year down . (4year cycle)

People expectation

More years up , less years down .

My reasoning

More years down more years up .

My reasons for this reasoning .

Just look at the world arround you .

Tech sector is strained of innovation AI trade has started to unwin .

Financial sector is strained . Sticky inflation , high rates , carry trade unwind .

Inter state politics is strained . Wars , alliance breakage, tarrifs and regime changes.

Business sector is strained . Higher energy cost , higher raw material and metal costs and higher compute cost.

Demographics is strained. Declining population , civil unrest , low employment .

Where is the bullish catalyst ? Some bill (clarity act) . I mean a bill could it really rule out the state of world ? .....

Debate me please !!!

I’m relatively new to stacking bitcoin directly and I have 10% of my paycheck direct-buy into it every paycheck through Fold.

I’ve been stacking sats/BTC while it was in the low 58-64K range but it seems to be having a small bump back up, and who knows - it may go even higher?

That prompts me to ask, at what price point would you stop buying and just hold?

When it pumps they wish they had more when it dumps they wish they hadnt put so much so either way its retarded and very ungrateful and its all because money, fiat. And the gov always corrupt it.

Even people who don't own any seem to follow it closely. Why do you think that is?

USD/JPY is dangerously high. If the Yen carry trade unwinds violently, crypto gets dumped first for instant liquidity.

In the event of another sharp unwinding of the yen carry trade, historical data suggests that the cryptocurrency market could quickly lose 20–30% of its value within just one or two days, regardless of any news originating from the crypto sector itself.

As you know guys, most discussions focus on price, but one of Bitcoin's most important on-chain metrics is moving in the opposite direction.

A record share of the total BTC supply is now held by long-term holders, participants who continue accumulating and holding their coins instead of selling them back into the market.

Historically, this has been one of the most interesting phases of a market cycle.

As more Bitcoin moves into long-term storage, the amount of liquid BTC available on exchanges and in active circulation gradually declines. That changes the network's supply dynamics in a meaningful way. Less liquid supply means a larger portion of Bitcoin is effectively removed from day-to-day market activity.

What's particularly notable is that this milestone comes during a relatively quiet period for the market. Long-term conviction continues to grow, supply becomes increasingly scarce, and the structure of the Bitcoin network keeps improving regardless of short-term market sentiment.

in a world without freedom, democracy and civilization bitcoin cannot be used for anything IRL or swap it for fiat because they would be traced and once they know they can fuck with you in a thousand way, legal or not.

what scares me is this, not the price dropping but the big corpo and govs VS the individuals. on the positive side, if adoptions keeps rising (and it will as long as crime, war and shit like this keep happening); nothing can go after everyone!

could some big entity make some actions to slow adoption until it stops entirely? or would it drive adoption even more, regardless of the risks derived by being a victim of these actions? i know real things affect the price but it’s always unrelated to btc. what if the news and btc are the same, how does it unfold? like what happened with the exchange drama or normal people losing money or the kidnappings of rich men in france?

If sure, how was your expertise? If not, what's the most important purpose holding you back?

i'm looking for android bitcoin wallets that support connecting to my node via tor by itself without the need to run orbot.

i've only found blockstream green, which i'm not interested in. cake wallet supports it, too, plus silent payments and payjoin, which is amazing and rare in total, but also shitcoins. why isn't there an equivalent to sparrow for mobile yet?

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Remember when the whole point of crypto was "not your keys, not your coins"? We spent years talking about self-custody, privacy, and getting away from centralized control.

Now look around. People are feeding their most private data, decisions, and even financial choices straight into AI systems run by a handful of big companies. No pushback, no hesitation. It's like the narrative just... changed, and most people didn't even notice the shift.

Is this a natural evolution of tech adoption, or did we quietly trade one form of control for another? Curious how the Bitcoin community sees this playing out. Are we going to see a similar decentralization push for AI like we did for money, or is this ship already sailed?

What's your take?

Right now bitcoin unit is 1 bitcoin. Given the price, if you spend $500 you can purchase roughly 0.007 bitcoin. Just the idea of 0.007 sounds very depressing for anything, but 700k satoshi would give a different impression otherwise. If the unit is normalized to satoshi, this allow people to reduce the mental barrier of buying something mathematically so little and feels like they are owning more.

What is preventing the bitcoin community to push to normalize the unit to satoshi from bitcoin?

I’m dca in bitcoin on strike but I’m not sure how secure strike is

Hi, I have $50 that I'd like to invest in Bitcoin and I'd like to know if you recommend it. I'd like to invest larger amounts over time, but to start I'd like to invest $50.

I would like there to be more discussion about the game theory of Bitcoin. So that is what I am bringing.

My first question for discussion is: What are some of the natural characteristics of Bitcoin?

For example, Bitcoin is able to incentivize its growth by rewarding it maintainers with the initial distributive value of its network ownership.

Been tracking a few things this week worth sharing.

The capitulation read. Relative long/short-term holder realized profit/loss to exchanges spiked to a level we haven't seen since Nov/Dec 2022, which marked the exact cycle bottom.

Institutional access keeps widening. Morgan Stanley rolled out spot BTC trading on E*Trade to roughly 8.6M clients. T. Rowe Price launched an actively managed spot crypto ETP with ~40% in Bitcoin. Both in the same week, in a bear market.

South Korea. Their new National Asset Basic Act brings digital assets under government asset management for the first time since 1950. This is a management law, not a strategic reserve. However, pair this with Japan moving toward Bitcoin ETFs last week and it is clear Asia's biggest economies are quietly building Bitcoin into their financial systems.

Debasement continues. M2 money supply hit a new all-time high of $23.05T. National debt around $39.4T.

Most interested in what people think about the capitulation read specifically. Bottom signals seem to be flashing everywhere, is this real or will there be another leg down before we test lower?

I put these together weekly if anyone wants the full version with charts:

https://orangenest.beehiiv.com/p/5-sats-sunday-7-19-2026

I see a lot a people talking about DCA and mentioning how they are OG hodlers for years. I always wonder.. how much were they able to accumulate/keep since then. Is 1.5 BTC a lot compared to the average hodler?

Rewritten with AI for clarity.

I don't have a deep understanding of how the Bitcoin blockchain works, but my understanding is that if a single entity, or a group of entities acting together, controlled more than 50% of the network's mining hash rate, they could potentially create an alternate version of the blockchain and have it accepted as the valid chain for as long as they maintained that majority. Is that correct?

If so, could they create fraudulent blocks that appear to show many unrelated wallets sending them large amounts of Bitcoin, even though those transactions were never actually authorized by the owners of those wallets? If they maintained control of the majority hash rate for a period of time, could they use those fraudulently obtained coins to purchase goods or convert them into USD before the honest network regained control and replaced the fraudulent chain with the legitimate one?

More broadly, could a very large data center operator, or several of the world's largest operators working together, realistically accumulate enough Bitcoin mining hash rate to exceed 50% of the network? I know the hash rate of AI focused GPUs is probably a lot lower than ASICs.

If such an attack were technically feasible, what would the approximate cost be in terms of electricity? How much Bitcoin would an attacker need to extract through double-spending or other attacks for the operation to become profitable after accounting for those costs?

Well, if it's true that for every lucky one there are 99 who cry... here I am...

I lost $50,000 of my savings, plus the pain of all the potential gains if I'd just bought that one instead of that other one, or if I'd just held on for longer. I started in 2022 and I've never managed to hold on. When I saw a 10% loss, that was already a lot; on $50,000, I was down $5... I feel like I've failed, and I'll never recover this loss, in my country it's hard to save $500 in three months.

Someone like me who has never managed to chase the bull?

i don‘t see any reason why it should be risky.

high volatility? thats no risk.

regulatory problems? i don‘t think that is possible to prohibit the buy or sell.

so what are risks?

Dollar and Euro will go under so there is no real risk in my opinion.

Should I include bitcoin in my diversified investments or should I stick to blue chip stocks? I’m relatively risk adverse and have at least 25 yrs before retirement. I invested in Russian stocks before and it did not go well… then I invested in Chinese stocks and it plummeted… then I invested in Japanese telecoms and it stayed flat for yrs. The US tech stocks have given stellar returns and I wonder if bitcoin can beat magnificient seven?

Ho già programmato una DCA che mi permetterà di arrivare verso settembre a 0.1 BTC. Comunque vada il prezzo quello è l’obiettivo minimo.
Dite che è una buona somma? In 20/30 anni quanto potrebbe valere secondo voi?
Solo risposte serie per favore. Viva bitcoin!

Which is good, we're still so early. People always hating on something when it's down, and they hated even more when its up, except they are in. Same fucking every cycle.

Unpopular opinion but I think that if you buy to sell you didn’t understand the purpose of Bitcoin..
If Bitcoin becomes what its supporters believe it will, why would you ever want to exchange it back for a depreciating currency?
The real endgame isn’t selling Bitcoin. It’s living in a world where you no longer need to.

I’m new to Bitcoin and looking for feedback on the best options to buy. My previous posts are deleted by the moderator so this will most likely be deleted also.

Where do most people feel comfortable buying Bitcoin and do you prefer to hold your portfolio on an external wallet? If on external wallets do you have a preference for which one?

which matters more to you right now

This is it, guys.

I've been in this crypto market since 2016, through all the Bears and Bulls.

And I'm saying this with the highest confidence: THIS IS IT. This is what we've been waiting for. And it has arrived.

So, stop acting gloomy. Max your confidence.

Pull that DCA amount to the MAX and enjoy another bull run in the next 3 years.

Been holding for a few years now and something shifted recently-I just... stopped checking the price constantly. Used to open the app first thing in the morning, now I genuinely go weeks without looking, and when I do check it's more out of curiosity than anxiety.

Didn't consciously decide to do this, it just kind of happened once I mentally filed it as long term thing I'm not touching instead of thing I need to monitor. Weirdly freeing compared to how I used to feel about it, checking constantly and letting the daily swings mess with my mood.

Anyone else go through this shift? How long did it take before you stopped checking obsessively, and did something specific trigger it or did it just gradually fade on its own?

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Nos últimos meses venho estudando como a Inteligência Artificial pode ajudar na análise do mercado de Bitcoin, principalmente na identificação de tendências, gerenciamento de risco e redução das decisões emocionais.

Percebi que muitos traders ainda enfrentam os mesmos desafios:

Entrar cedo ou tarde demais.

Definir Stop Loss e Take Profit.

Operar por impulso durante períodos de alta volatilidade.

Por isso comecei a desenvolver uma ferramenta de IA que analisa dados do mercado e gera informações para auxiliar na tomada de decisão. O objetivo não é prever o futuro nem prometer lucros, mas fornecer análises baseadas em dados.

Tenho algumas perguntas para a comunidade:

Quais indicadores vocês consideram indispensáveis para analisar o Bitcoin?

Vocês utilizariam uma IA apenas como apoio à decisão ou preferem fazer toda a análise manual?

Quais recursos fariam vocês confiar em uma ferramenta desse tipo?

Se alguém tiver interesse em conhecer o projeto e dar um feedback, deixo o link aqui: https://iapurotrade.com/index.html⁠�

Toda crítica e sugestão são muito bem-vindas.

I was arguing with Tom Lee about where to go to lunch. He wanted Chipotle and I wanted McDonalds. I took out a coin and said, “50% chance we go to Chipotle” he looks at me in that Tom Lee way and replies “Let’s wait until tomorrow”

I say, “why?”
He goes, “It could go up!”

(Tom is the Best)

I'm looking for a community (Discord, Reddit, Telegram, or any other platform) where serious and consistently profitable traders share their daily trade plans and review their executed trades. My goal is to post my own trade plan before entering the market and review my trades afterward so I stay disciplined and avoid impulsive decisions.

Brutally honest here, has anyone been overly obsessed with Bitcoin? Like you know it’s the future (even though price manipulation), it’s your habit, your hobby, and it honestly makes you a little crazy.

So I've read that we are close to a bottom and this may be an opportunity. I have this 20k bike (my currency, not dollars) I want to buy but i only have 7k and realistically i would have to save for around 2 years to get the other 13k i need. If I buy 7k worth of bitcoin when it hits the 55k mark, and sell in around 2 years, what are the chances that it would be a good move? Is it worth the risk or is there a way smarter choice?

Is this a good idea ?

* I have 10 percent in bitcoin, at the moment 120k average price is af 87k, not sure where it will go so I’m heavily buying Voo/blue chip stocks

Not sure where to post this and how many this will affect but the email list of Glassnode is most likely leaked/hacked. I use unique emails for each website and I just got a phishing email on my glassnode email address. It was also phishing as glassnode so really looked very legitimate from a first glance.

What is the stupidest move that you have seen so far in this channel? Like for example getting a loan at close to 10% interest to buy Bitcoin?

I sold every other asset I owned, stopped my pension contributions, took out loans, and we even sold our old flat in Delhi.

Altogether, I have invested around $90,000 to $95,000 into BTC.

I started buying near $100k, continued as it climbed toward $126k, and added more during the recent lows.

This is risky, but it was calculated. My salary covers the loan payments, and based on my calculations, I should be able to repay everything within two and a half years.

I would not recommend anyone blindly copy this. But after years of learning about Bitcoin, money, inflation, and scarcity, this is where my conviction is strongest.

Maybe it becomes the biggest mistake of my life. Maybe it changes my family’s future.

Repay the debt. Secure the Bitcoin. Come back in 10 years.

Bitcoin's price has historically tracked a long-term power law trendline — a curve that grows at a constant rate on a log-log time/price scale.

I've built a small website to track how the price is doing relative to the trendline. Historically when the price falls below the trendline it signals a great buying opportunity. Similarly, price going above the trendline might flash a sell signal.

Nobody knows the future price, but now is a good time to turn your DCAs - now proven by a mathematical formula.

here is the link: https://www.btcpower.ai/

Hi, is Revolut X good for simply doing DCA? Has anyone had any experience selling on it? Is there enough trading volume and liquidity? I’d especially appreciate feedback from European residents. Thanks

Remember this post!

Has anyone worked with Medialabel? I fell into what I believe is a Bitcoin block chain scam. I know.... I didn't know until it was too late. It still pretty promising as a remote job until I got joint orders that put me into financial burden.

Is there any chance I can have assistance?

Martii Malmi (AKA Sirius) “COPA trial” email #210
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:23:10 +0100
From: Satoshi Nakamoto satoshin@gmx.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: bitcoin hosting
To: mmalmi@cc.hut.fi

Please promise me you won't make a switch now. The last thing we need
is switchover hassle on top of the slashdot flood of work we've got now.
I'm losing my mind there are so many things that need to be done.
Also, it would suck to be on a smaller, less reliable host just to save
a measly $20.
I will try to think of a polite way to ask the donor if he sent it, but
right now there are other higher priority things that are going to bump
even that for a few days.
Would a donation of bitcoins help in the short term?

mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote:
> Rackspace has very good support, good backend, good connections and
> nicely scaling cloud based virtual servers. I got this offer from Thufir:
>
> -----
> Hi Sirius,
>
> Check out www.citrusdesignstudio.com. You will see through the portfolio
> that
> I am a real business with many clients.
>
> That is my business that I provide managed hosting through.
> I also do unmanaged VPSes.
>
> Normally I would charge $15/mo for 512MB.
> I will do it for $10/mo for you.
>
> To see my pricing, go to www.linnode.com. I match everything they have
> except
> their great panel -- you have to email or call my people.
>
> I provide VPS services normally for 3/4ths the posted cost on linnode.com.
> (Rackspace is even more expensive.)
>
> I will do it for 1/2 of linnode's price for you.
>
> It scales linerally just like linnodes, so for 2048 MB of memory, I would
> charge $40, etc.
>
> Later!
> -----
>
> That would be worth considering, if they have good datacenters and
> connections. $10 / month is about $20 less than what Rackspace costs. On
> the other hand, Rackspace prices are no problem if the donation is to
> arrive.
>

Quick disclosure up front, since this sub is (rightly) strict about self-promotion: I maintain a project that tracks Bitcoin’s legal status across ~140 countries: legality, self-custody rights, tax treatment, seizure risk. No link here, just sharing because I think the underlying facts are worth this sub’s time on their own.

On July 7, President Tokayev signed a decree that bundles three things worth knowing:
1/ Tax. A planned exemption from personal income tax on gains from digital asset transactions conducted through Kazakhstan’s regulated infrastructure. Officials have described this as “planned,” so the implementing rules aren’t fully live yet, but the direction is explicit and it came straight from the Ministry of AI and Digital Development.

2/ Mining. A new mechanism letting associated petroleum gas and natural gas that isn’t needed for state use be converted into electricity for mining operations. This is aimed at monetizing stranded/flared gas that was otherwise being wasted.

3/ Offshore coins. A framework to bring previously unregistered or offshore-held crypto assets into the regulated domestic system, alongside groundwork for stablecoin-based cross-border settlement.

Context that makes this land differently: Kazakhstan is the world’s third-largest Bitcoin mining nation by hashrate, behind only the US and China. This is the same country that banned mining and slapped punitive electricity tariffs on miners back in 2021–22 after the post-China-ban influx overloaded its grid. Going from “we’re taxing you out” to “0% on gains, here’s some stranded gas to mine with” in four years is a real reversal.

On the tax point specifically: if this holds as written, it puts Kazakhstan ahead of most G7 countries, several of which still tax Bitcoin gains as ordinary income with no exemption at all.

For reference, across the ~140 countries I track, the current split is roughly 6 clearly pro-Bitcoin, 11 openly hostile, and the rest (~123) somewhere in between with unclear or inconsistent policy.

Genuinely curious what this sub thinks: is this a real long-term bet on Bitcoin infrastructure, or a play to grab mining revenue and hashrate share while the window’s open, and does it matter which one it is?

Adam Back has a buy order in for 21 million Bitcoin at $0.01 cents. I don’t think we’ll ever see this, but it’s good to know this fact when you see people saying that Bitcoin is going to zero.

https://mempool.space/block/00000000000000000000b3b4ffabf7eed7e613c5fcb50ec85f015e424b0bcf6d

Hello am new here I was told someone here can help me recover my bitcoins i forgot my brainwallet password reach out please

11 years in corporate. Somewhere around reorganization number 10 and slide deck number 500, I stopped counting and started thinking.

I don't want to be in the flywheel anymore, obeying things that make no sense and bending over to corporate politeness. I want to build something of my own and prove I can do it by myself.

When I discovered Bitcoin 8 years ago, I put in the hours to understand it. After that, I could not unsee it. The mission is noble, and Bitcoin is the only thing I've ever felt worth building for. Not for the glory. For the mission. I dream about it, it occupies my mind every night before I fall asleep. Money that cannot be debased. Freedom. A heritage you can actually pass on to your kids. That resonates with me.

So this year I stop watching and start building. Nights and weekends, next to the day job. Something that helps normal people get in and hold their own keys.

I will probably fail in public a few times. Fine. I'm more scared of reorg number 20 than of failing at something I believe in.

If you feel the same flywheel, follow along.

I listened to the most recent podcast from natalie brunells coin stories podcast, she's interviewing a guy called david hunter who's calling for a melt up in stocks and then a massive stock market crash (seems to have been calling this since 2020 though), i think hes saying that the money printer wont reverse it, if there is a rollover in the stock markets and big crash does this mean BTC will crash way further and for longer? Because stock markets are all time highs or there abouts now and BTC cut in half since october, so what if there is a big recession in stocks??? Or this guy doesnt know and 4 year cycle will continue?

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So if people left it on exchange when the hard fork happen they will lose the coin? but the one who self custody, they will still have the real bitcoin? genuinenly asking as i self custody myself and dont want to sell ever because of this bip110 stuff going on

If BTC works on cycles, why are people are so hardcore believers about HODLing? Wouldn’t it be smarter to do something like Benjamin Cowen is talking about : sell some during the predictable downturns invest somewhere else during that time (do prior research ahead of the bear market) and comeback for the bull market? I hear talk a lot about October-ish end of the bear market. Any thoughts ?

What’s the true stat to be in the top 10% of all Bitcoin Holders (from a retail perspective)?

How much are you trying to stack? What is your goal?

There’s a lot of debate around this and wanted to get people’s thoughts.

The support team lacks communication skills and just blatantly neglects any helpful information for the Users on what the next steps in the KYC Verification process are. They only suggest that I be patient, and that they've sent the documents that I've already sent them to the proper department without any follow up. I've used NC Wallet for the better part of 3 years sending to and from the same wallets every time and never had a real issue, (other than the lack of providing a TxID for sometimes several days before actually processing and completing,) until I finally deposited a decent amount from a casino ($5,000) and then all of the sudden there's a problem and they need to verify my identity, (which it literally says is not required and won't even let you until they flag the KYC Verification, and that I've now been waiting 2 weeks for.) Now, for obvious reasons I'm submitting reviews on Reddit, Trustpilot, Google Play Store and the major social media platforms about the type of trap this wallet is. I will also be reporting to the DFPI if for whatever reason they cease to communicate with me entirely. Like I said, I've never really had a problem with the app and would like to continue using it or at leaat get my funds back, however, I'm not about to just let $5,000 of mine just get taken without doing something about it. I've read a couple of posts that said they were able to get their accounts back, idk on the legitimacy of that, but I would love to be one of them. If anything, this post is more to let the people that may not know that NC Wallet is definitely not the Wallet to store any of your crypto if you want to have control of your funds. Learn from mine and many others mistakes..

I will edit this post if for some miracle they push my verification through.

The AI suggests I add my ticket numbers to help bypass the generic support bot so here they are:

NW-146416

NW-144905

Each pump so far has a demographic behind it, whether it be retail, institutional investors, etc.

Where do you believe the next pump lies?

I bought some BTC a few years ago. I used an IOS app as a wallet, called "Yallet".
It doesn't exist anymore so I can't restore the phone with my backup...

Do I have any chances to find the private keys inside of a ios backup ?

There's a question nobody in the AI industry has properly answered: how do AI agents pay for things?

Credit cards require human identity. Banks require passports. None of that works for software making thousands of micropayments per hour autonomously.

Lightning Labs released lightning-agent-tools in February 2026, seven composable modules that give AI agents everything they need to operate natively on Lightning.

The core of it is L402 plus lnget: an AI agent hits an API, the server responds with HTTP 402 "Payment Required" plus a Lightning invoice, lnget automatically pays the invoice, receives a macaroon credential, retries the request. Total time under one second. Total human involvement: zero.

The full toolkit includes remote key isolation with keys on a separate signer machine, scoped macaroons for spend limits per agent, Aperture to turn any API into a pay-per-use service, and MCP support for Claude, GPT, and custom frameworks.

Why Bitcoin and not stablecoins? Transactions on Inferior Centralized Altcoin Chains cost cents to dollars, unviable for micropayments. A Lightning payment for 1 sat costs a fraction of a sat. And no one can freeze your sats.

For node runners: AI agent traffic means more routing opportunities and demand for liquidity. Your node becomes infrastructure for the machine economy.

Full breakdown:

https://davidebtc186.substack.com/p/ai-agents-are-starting-to-pay-in

Most coverage treats ETF flows and Lightning usage as separate stories. Put them side by side and something interesting shows up.

ETF flows in the last three weeks: a ten day outflow streak that drained 2.73 billion dollars in late June, then a reversal on July 2 with 221 to 223.5 million coming back in, then 510 million across three sessions with BlackRock's IBIT leading, then a fresh 424.66 million in outflows on July 13. Year to date net outflows still sit around 5.4 billion, essentially unmoved by the July bounce.

Meanwhile Lightning Network volume is up 266 percent year over year despite public channel count declining. Average transaction value has nearly doubled to around 223 dollars. Merchant adoption of Lightning payments reached 15 percent of Bitcoin transactions by mid 2024 and kept climbing through 2025.

The interesting part is that these two trends look increasingly disconnected. ETF flows are macro driven, tracking dollar strength and Fed policy on a day to day basis. Lightning volume growth looks adoption driven, growing regardless of what price is doing. That is arguably a healthier signal than previous cycles where everything correlated with speculation.

There is also a consolidation trend worth watching. Average channels per node dropped roughly 30 percent between 2020 and 2024, meaning the network is routing through fewer, more concentrated hubs rather than a wide peer mesh.

Full breakdown with sources and a section on what to watch going into August:

https://davidebtc186.substack.com/p/the-numbers-nobody-is-connecting

Huge numbers of people have been aware of bitcoins existence since 2013 and many have played around less than $10k… it really doesn’t mean anything.

fact I would even go as far to say it’s a negative thing when deciding whether to trust someone since if someone says this and isn’t a millionaire it means they clearly didn’t appreciate the value of it in the past or did something really stupid.

Over the last few days, I’ve been seeing and hearing people I follow talk about an issue in the Bitcoin community. It seems to be related to nodes and miners, basically dividing everyone into two factions.

As a regular Bitcoin HODLer, I’m not really sure what’s going on. Could anyone more knowledgeable on the topic share their thoughts and explain what is happening in the simplest terms possible? What are the potential consequences of either outcome, and what is the root cause of the conflict?

I didn't want to just ask an AI, I'd rather hear directly from real bitcoiners to understand your perspectives. Thanks!

Its pretty obvious to me now, i have no clue what im doing. BTC avg 122k, SLV etf avg 100.12, SPCX avg 219.83

Between the 3, im down 6 figures. I will never recover from this. Good luck out there

I had a robo-butler for my birthday create this wonderful piece of work that only tracks BTC mvrv z-score, and will send alerts based on undervalued threshold, which is usually behind a paywall. we still have 3 months to go. custom value alerts coming when tokens reset

I’m seeing the drop so far but I’m new to bitcoin and would really appreciate the advice should I invest now in bitcoin?

What do you guys see in 6 months- 1 year?

Thank You!

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Spot Bitcoin ETF outflows have been getting all the attention lately, but JPMorgan is basically saying “hold up, not everything looks dead.”

Their analysts pointed out that while spot ETF flows have been messy, Leveraged Strategy ETFs have seen steadier positive inflows over the past 7 weeks.

They also said bitcoin futures flows look more positive, which usually hints more at institutional activity than retail just panic-clicking buy and sell.

So yeah, spot ETF outflows look ugly on the surface, but under the hood, some bigger players might still be positioning.

I’m still watching flows, still holding, and keeping the mining side active through OneMiners instead of letting every ETF headline cook my brain.

BTC really loves making the chart look depressing while the money quietly moves somewhere else lol.

I'm trying to max out my TFSA (Tax-Free Savings Account) for this tax year and I'm getting a bonus soon. Trying to decide the best way to use it.

Options I'm weighing:

Put most/all of it toward catching up my TFSA so I max out the annual limit before the tax year ends

Put most/all of it into Bitcoin instead

Some kind of 50/50 split

For context if you're not familiar with TFSAs, it's the SA equivalent of a Roth IRA. You get an annual contribution limit (currently R46k) and a lifetime cap (R500k), and anything inside grows completely tax-free. But unlike Bitcoin, unused room in a given tax year is gone for good, you don't carry it forward.

I'm posting here specifically instead of a general investing sub because I feel like Bitcoiners tend to be a bit more balanced on this. Most of you are bullish on BTC but still hold ETFs/index funds too, whereas the generic investing subs tend to have zero exposure to Bitcoin at all and will just tell me to dump everything into index funds without engaging with the BTC side of the question.

So, genuinely asking: if you were bullish on BTC long term but also had tax advantaged room expiring, how would you actually split a windfall like this?

Why did my bitcoin limit drop today? It started out at 1,040.00 now it’s at 1,009.00. Why did that happen? Or does it go back up after awhile?

The dollar is obviously being printed into irrelevance. Fiat always collapses, the bitcoin and PM community have a lot in common. So I have a few questions for this community that I’m hoping you all can shed some light on. None of this is an attack, I think it’s great more and more people recognize the precariousness of our financial system, so same team.

With that, I have the following questions

1. What is bitcoin backed by/can more of ever be created? What prevents more of it from being created? How is value derived ?

2. Do you have fears about a digital currency and oligarchs ability to turn off your money for having wrongthink. We literally do this to nations but we call it sanctions.

3. What are you thoughts on physical Gold and Silver as Bitcoin folks

4. Have any of you ever read the 1997 NSA whitepaper “How to Make a Mint” and does it make any of you. Nervous that bitcoin is a set up for something else?

God bless fellas, really looking forward to these replies

So I recently just went to a coin depot machine and place 1k into the machine and scanned a wallet I wanted to send the funds to but it never told me an amount or confirmation of the money deposit all it did was take the money and spit out a receipt saying the funds have been retained??? What’s happening and what should I do is this normal? Am I going to get the money back or will they send it to the wallet?

I have a question: what is your exit strategy for Bitcoin, regardless of the investment timeframe? When do you decide it’s time to sell, and what criteria do you use to make that decision?

So on August 6th or 7th block 961,632 starts the bip110 lock-in. What do yall think is gonna happen? I think it will be a big nothing burger but I bet there is a small sell-off maybe to 55k. Are you taking any BTC off exchanges, just in case.

I am keen to hear your experiences

I've been digging into the concept of Civic Bitcoin for a while and wanted to share a breakdown, because I think it's philosophically way more interesting than it looks at first glance. Quick heads-up: Civic Bitcoin is not a technical fork and not a new coin. It's a voluntary governance and usage layer on top of Bitcoin – the idea of treating the protocol as public infrastructure to be used collectively and for a purpose (mining and Lightning fee revenue flows into social causes instead of private profit).

Why do I find this interesting?

1. It reconciles two camps that usually just talk past each other On one side, the cypherpunk/libertarian crowd: money must be neutral and rules-based. On the other, the "money must be democratically controlled" crowd. Civic Bitcoin basically says: The neutrality of the protocol is a feature, not a bug – but what we do with it, we get to decide together. So: neutral base + a voluntary ethos on top. It's almost a Rawlsian split between the "basic structure" and "what people pursue within it."

2. Bitcoin as a commons (Ostrom would approve) Elinor Ostrom won the Nobel Prize for showing that common-pool resources need neither pure state nor pure market – self-organized rules can work. Civic Bitcoin applies this to a digital, non-rival good. The protocol = a digital commons.

3. Transparency instead of trust All inflows/outflows on-chain and public. Philosophically neat, because trust is shifted away from people and toward verifiable procedures. Classic "don't trust, verify," but applied to public-good funding.

But – and this matters – there are real weaknesses:

The governance paradox: The moment you say "the community decides," all the old democracy problems come back – unequal participation, elite capture, tyranny of the majority. The neutrality you celebrate at the protocol level gets abandoned at the governance level. The incentive problem: Bitcoin runs economically on self-interest (mining profit). A model that redirects profit has to explain why people participate voluntarily. Free-rider problem, anyone? Scaling solidarity: Ostrom-style commons work best in small, clearly bounded groups. Whether this scales globally and anonymously is an open question. "Social fork" is rhetorically elegant but fragile: An ethos with no technical enforcement is only as strong as the voluntary commitment of its adherents.

TL;DR: Civic Bitcoin is essentially a communitarian-republican superstructure built on a libertarian-neutral base. It's less a finished theory than a normative bet: that neutral infrastructure and deliberately democratic use don't have to be mutually exclusive. Whether it collapses in practice under the governance and incentive problems is the real million-sats question.

What do you all think? Utopian idealism, or a realistic path to using Bitcoin for the common good? Anyone know of concrete projects already doing this?

If you're waiting for the perfect entry, you might be waiting forever. Time in the market has beaten timing the market over and over again.

How did you stop caring about cost basis?

“The problem wasn’t raising the money,” he told me from a displacement camp in Gaza. “The problem started when we had to rely on someone else to receive it for us.”

...

The weakness Sami’s case exposes is not unique. Crowdfunding platforms can raise money for families facing war, disaster or repression within hours but getting it safely to the intended recipient can be far more complicated.

...

Bitcoin allows funds to move across borders without a platform holding them or a beneficiary passing them on. Risks around wallet security, access and exchange rates remain.

For Mary Kate, that control has significance beyond the movement of money.

“We can’t take your account from you. We can’t shut down your campaign. We can’t take your money,” she said. “For people dealing with trauma and a lack of control over their lives, that can be a huge moment of empowerment.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2026/07/16/when-the-financial-system-cant-reach-people-in-crisis-bitcoin-can/

Watcher guru is full of unrelated spam (and shitcoin news). And price movements aren't the kind of news I am looking for.

Cointelegraph make general news and if there are no news they still push out articles because they need the clicks.

...

What source would be out there? I don't need many news a day, if there are no news, I'd be ok if that pipeline stood empty.

Anyone has any idea?

A small group of traders extracted $8.2 million from Polymarket’s five-minute bitcoin contracts by pushing the spot price on Binance just before settlement, researchers from Stanford University and Singapore Management University found.

im thinking on having a ASIC on my home, any advice?

The lightning network is a second-layer solution on top of the Bitcoin blockchain that enables quick, cheap and scalable Bitcoin payments.

Here is the place to discuss and learn more about lightning!

Ask your questions about lightning

Provide reviews, feedback, comparisons of LN apps, services, websites etc

Learn about new LN features, development, apps

Link to good quality resources (articles, wikis etc)

Resources:

• Here is an awesome list of resources: https://bitcoinfo.org/lightning.html

• Want to test out your lightning fire power? tip the Bitcoin devs! https://bitcoindevlist.com/

• Previous threads: Search

• Lnbook getting closer towards being finished and can already be seen at: https://github.com/lnbook/lnbook

• Lightning Dedicated YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/renepickhardt

• Also there is the playlist by chaincode labs: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpLH33TRghT17_U3as2P3vHfAGL8pSOOY

• Lightning stores: https://www.lightningnetworkstores.com/

• Learn more and talk about lightning right here in r/Bitcoin, r/bitcoinbeginners and r/thelightningnetwork

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I'm 31, married, no debt myself, stable job, and unexpectedly discovered I still own about 0.219 BTC (~$14,000 today).

The backstory...In 2015 I bought about $117 worth of Bitcoin, sold part of it a few weeks later, and completely forgot about the remaining 0.219 BTC. Coinbase recently sent me an inactivity/unclaimed property notice, and when I logged in I discovered it's now worth around $14k.

At one point the holding was worth roughly $27k, but it's currently around $14k.

My financial situation:

• Age 31
• Married
• No high-interest debt
• Thinking about starting a family in the next few years

I honestly forgot this existed for more than a decade.

If I sell, I'd expect to owe capital gains taxes and net somewhere around $10k–11k after taxes.

My Q: If this were you, would you:

1. Keep the Bitcoin?
2. Sell all of it and invest elsewhere?
3. Sell part and keep part?

And if you sold, where would you put the money?

• Broad index fund (VTI/VTSAX/VOO)?
• HYSA?
• CD?
• Something else?

please help!

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Do you think Bitcoin has reached its bottom?

Damn it he got me again! time to off chart for a year!

Does Bitcoin better distribute uncertainty, thus leading to increased productivity as a species?

New to BTC and wondering what people are thinking about the next bull run. When will it be ? And what’s you estimated price range for the top?

I used to pay less attention to macro dates when trading BTC. I would mostly look at the chart, funding, and where price was sitting around support or resistance.

After this CPI move, I think that is harder to ignore. BTC pushed higher as inflation came in cooler and rate hike expectations dropped, so the trade was not just about a clean technical breakout. The macro data changed the risk appetite behind the move.

For now I’m trying to adjust around that. If CPI or FOMC is coming up, I’d rather reduce size, avoid opening a fresh leveraged position right before the release, and wait until the first reaction settles. I was watching the BTC perp on bydfii during the move. It made me more aware of how quickly the setup can change after one data comes out.

Are you also paying attention to these macro dates now? How does the data affect your strategies?

I’m new to crypto but what app should I use? I heard Coinbase has crazy fees?

Man bitcoin has done absolutely nothing today. Just sitting there chopping between the same levels for hours. Small wicks up and down, volume looks dead, no real direction at all. But I swear I can feel it. That same vibe right before it decides to go crazy. Like its just waiting for everyone to get bored and look away then boom. This shit happens every single time. Quiet period then out of nowhere a mad move. Anyone else staring at the chart right now feeling the exact same thing? Or is it just me?

For context for anyone who is unaware, in 1933 US Government declared all US citizens must sell their Gold to the US government for $20.67 and oz. Forcing their citizens to trade a hard asset for fiat. The next year they turned around and repriced that same gold at $35 an ounce.

Is this something you see as a threat to BTC in the future in the United States? Any plans to circumnavigate or protect yourself besides maybe a foreign citizenship?

With the United States now at war with Iran, I keep thinking about an older argument from the Bitcoin movement.

Wasn’t Bitcoin supposed to be part of the anti-war movement?

Early Bitcoin culture was not only about getting rich, ETFs, corporate treasuries, or governments building strategic reserves. Bitcoin was presented as a way to challenge the monetary system that makes endless war possible.

The basic argument was simple:
Governments can wage wars that voters would never support if they had to pay the full cost immediately through higher taxes. Instead, wars are financed through debt, monetary expansion, and inflation. The costs are spread across decades and hidden inside higher prices, interest payments, and a weaker currency.

Bitcoin was supposed to change that equation.
A fixed-supply, politically neutral form of money would theoretically make it harder for governments to create money, quietly expand debt, and pass the cost of war onto future generations.
Bitcoin would not make war impossible. But it could make the cost of war more visible.

Yet during the Iran war, much of Bitcoin culture seems strangely silent. The conversation is mostly about whether oil prices will push Bitcoin higher, whether governments will buy more Bitcoin, and whether war will become another bullish catalyst.
That feels like a major cultural shift.

Bitcoin began as an attempt to separate money from state power. Now parts of the movement seem more interested in getting Bitcoin adopted by the same governments, financial institutions, and military powers it was originally supposed to constrain.
Maybe Bitcoin itself has not changed. The network remains neutral. But the culture around it has.

So here is the uncomfortable question:
Did Bitcoin fail as an anti-war movement—or did Bitcoiners simply stop caring about the anti-war part once the price started going up?

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLightningNetwork/comments/1ux41q2/free_channels_liquidity_giveaway/

Hi All,

If you want a free 1m channel (could be larger), post your pubkey/Amboss link here. If it's inactive for over 30 days, I'll be closing it. It'll have auto-fees and rebalancing from my end. My plan is to giveaway roughly 10 channels over the next few days. If the channel is active, I'll increase it's size.

This will be different than my past giveaways as I'll be opening it with my new node, focused on smaller channels (and as a test environment for me).

My requirements to participate are that you have 2m capacity and 4 channels already (to prevent idle capacity on my end). I won't be duplicating channels I already have open, and if I opened one in my last giveaway I may not open a new one (due to lack of routing).

-A

*PS* My next post plans to be that long promised architecture post in the next few weeks - along with an update of the monitoring dashboard I've been working on

At the previous low of around 16K many were waiting on the side line, hoping for 12K, which is 25%. If the bottem is already in, around 58K, all the people waiting for another 25% drop, which will be around 43K, will be left behind. Funny that 42-45K is a price I see being thrown around very often.

The big boys know thousands of people are waiting for 45K prices in october, therefore I simply don’t think we’re going to see those lows.

Bitcoin surged from under $63,000 to peak at $64,913 intraday, with the 4.2% gain pushing total crypto market capitalization past $2.3 trillion.

For years I’ve been reading positive things about Strike by Jack Mallers, especially because you can apparently buy Bitcoin with very low fees (and even fee-free options depending on how you use it). I’ve tried Strike on and off in the past with mixed results, but now I want to properly test it.

I’m comparing it against Finst, a Dutch exchange that currently offers some of the lowest Bitcoin buying fees in Europe (around 0.15%). Over a long period of DCA, small fee differences can really add up.

My Bitcoin journey started years ago on Coinbase. Looking back, the fees there were pretty painful, with large spreads and transaction costs. One thing I did like about Coinbase at the time was the occasional free crypto rewards, but eventually I moved on.

After Coinbase, I switched to Bitvavo, which is one of Europe’s largest exchanges by trading volume. Their fees are around 0.25%, which was already a big improvement.

Currently I use Finst, but because I keep seeing so many positive experiences with Strike, I decided to test it myself instead of just relying on other people’s opinions.

I created a spreadsheet where I’ll compare my weekly DCA purchases.

My setup:
- €100 Bitcoin DCA every Friday
- Compare Strike vs Finst
- Track the actual amount of BTC received and the total costs

My first purchase was last Friday (July 10). At the moment I received slightly less BTC on Strike compared to Finst, which is expected because of the higher costs/spread on the first transaction. But the interesting part will be how this develops over several weeks and months.

One thing I already like about Strike: it’s Bitcoin-only. No altcoins, no distractions, just Bitcoin.

I’ll keep updating this thread with the results. Curious to hear from others in Europe: what platform are you using for your Bitcoin DCA, and why?

Disclaimers: Not sponsored by Strike, Finst, or anyone else. I’m just a Dutch guy who likes comparing fees a little too much. ????????

Bitcoin is risky. Only invest what you can afford to lose.

What's the best way to get lightning btc ifnonly have on chain?

Any wallet where you can send on chain and it swaps to lightning ?

Tony DiCarlo calls it the “money glitch”:

Issue liabilities in a depreciating asset, hold an appreciating one, and let the spread do the work.

Strategy is the clearest example. It raises capital through fixed dollar-denominated obligations and uses the proceeds to buy Bitcoin.

Over time, the liability may become easier to service in real terms, while the Bitcoin backing it may grow in value.

What makes the idea interesting is that it may not stop with Digital Asset Treasuries.

The same principle could potentially extend to mortgages, insurance float, corporate debt and even sovereign reserves.

It is not risk-free. The model still depends on Bitcoin performing over the medium to long term.

But it raises a bigger question:

Could Bitcoin adoption happen not just through more people buying it, but by being built into the financial products they already use?

It's a made up, until it becomes self fulfilling prophecy. Same every cycle. The bear and the 40K guy keep saying see you at 40K the other keep saying 100k next, nothing matters. Narratives always follow price action. Buy your own risk.

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In my 20s. What is the better investment for the next 10-20 years. Yes it’s a risk and return play (Sharpe Ratio). However, it depends on your risk tolerance, knowledge, and emotional intelligence.

Wanted to get people’s thoughts on this debate.

I've been thinking about something recently and I'm curious what people here think.

Bitcoin does an incredible job of verifying ownership and transactions without trusting a third party.

But when an application needs to know whether something happened in the real world, things get messy.

For example:

• Was a package actually delivered?
• Did someone really visit a location?
• Was an inspection completed?

Most systems seem to fall back to GPS, a centralized API or simply trusting whoever reports the data.

Do you think this is something Bitcoin should stay completely out of, or is there room for protocols that verify real-world events while using Bitcoin purely as a settlement layer?

Genuinely interested in hearing different opinions.

What's a good Android wallet for testnet? Looks like Blue Wallet removed that feature.

This time for sure

I recently was sent a letter claiming I had an old Coinbase account with a balance that was going to be sent to the state because I had forgotten about its existence. Should I keep the BTC in the wallet or sell it? I don’t follow any crypto markets anymore, so I don’t know what the current predictions are or really much in general, so any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Im 15 and I’m wondering how I could buy some bitcoin without KYC and with a low margin.
I want to invest some money to earn enough so I can buy an astrophotography star tracker because I’m interested in it.

What benefits do you think this will bring to the development of cryptocurrency? One thing is certain: it will further solidify the United States’ position in the cryptocurrency space.

Lay it upon us

We’ve all seen the charts, and we’ve all felt that exact same pit in our stomach.

"I missed the boat."

"The easy money has been made."

"It's too late to start now."

Here is the brutal truth about Bitcoin: everyone gets the price they deserve. The people who bought at $1,000 had to endure years of media outlets calling it a dying fad. The people who bought at $10,000 had to hold through massive, soul-crushing 80% drops where everyone around them said "I told you so."

Bitcoin isn't just a stock or a ticker that goes up and down on a screen. It is a fundamental shift in how the world defines value. It is the first time in human history that we have a currency that cannot be printed into oblivion by a central entity.

When you look back at today from five or ten years in the future, the current price won't look like a peak. It will look like a flat line at the very beginning of the chart.

Stop staring at the 1-minute candles. Stop stressing over the daily noise. Zoom out.

The best time to understand Bitcoin was ten years ago. The second-best time is right now.

What the hell is stopping you?

Bitcoin is a protocol stack. A protocol comes in layers, where each layer is adding value by solving problems for users. Scalability in transactions with lightning and privacy being built on top at the moment. This is how the internet was built also. Now the builders in Bitcoin are using AI so idea to execution is going to be faster and faster. We are extremely early is this transition so just be patient my friend.

Stay humble and stack sats to whoever needed to hear.

Did this post so there could be a open convo about protocols. Maybe I missed something. Share your favourite bitcoin native companies also. Personally I see big potential in Fedimint

Today we published a walkthrough of the BIP process: where it came from, what the editors do and do not control, the lifecycle including January's BIP-3 changes, how activation works from BIP-9 through Speedy Trial, and the covenant proposals moving through the process right now.

https://www.learnbitcoin.com/rabbit-hole/bip-process

If you spot something wrong, tell us and we will fix it.

I was wondering what people have predicted for price movement between the months mentioned.

I’ve seen a lot of talk online about a steep bottom in October. I am just curious as to why so many people are so sure that bitcoin will continue moving downward. I’m looking for genuine data/fact backed reasoning for this claim.

If there’s a genuine reason for this, I would like to know so I can configure my strategy to incorporate such information.

(I personally have been DCAing from the beginning of 2026)

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Ok I have my bitcoin core wallet dumpprivet key of that address which I have the funds but when I try to import the private key in electrum or bitcoin core new wallet or into any platform the address change automatically and shows 0 balance it's not showing me the that address which holds the fund please help me if any one have the solution and one more think the key is compressed I try p2pkh method of electrum but it didn't work and i have only one receiving address but after all this i face this problem again and again

Before I start, I've invested a decent amount of my savings into bitcoin, I do believe in it and have tried to understand it.

But with that being said, how do you guys actually think this is going to replace traditional currency with a TPS limit of just 7(and that's on the high end). Unless third party brokers intervene and handle transactions(which would essentially become another version of the current financial system), I simply don't understand how this could ever replace cash.

Again, I'm not hating, just trying to understand with an open mind

EDIT: I appreciate all your responses about the lightning network, I would be grateful if anyone could recommend reading material or books to help understand the technical side of bitcoin further!

Bitcoin, the game theory facet, is a structure in extreme social tension. There are at least five key stakeholders - miners, users, developers, market, and exchanges. All the stakeholders have at least two senior partners who express forms of control. From above, the relationship would look like five players linking arms together, heads in, while collaborating in mutually supportive, competitive, and highly incentivized encounters. With Bitcoin, there is no trusted third party, instead, the relationship is divided at least five ways. This decentralizes trust, which distributes risk. The system is also constructed whereby the players have direct mechanisms for punishment as well as reward constrained to behaviour exhibited. Collaborative behavior is rewarded with mutual security while anti-social behaviour is discouraged through collective financial penalties.

At the end of the day, the one thing we all have in common is the desire for the system to facilitate greater feats of cooperation. (That’s number go up).

because you will never know about when is the bottom, but i think personally from previous cycle, this is a very cheap buying region! hodling loss, and keep dca and also preparing lump sump when it dips more is a wise move but again there's always 50/50 chance so just do it lmao

so, I've been following this BIP-110 vs Core saga for some time now, and I feel like I understand very well why BIP-110 is being proposed. they don't want bitcoin Core to allow the use of bitcoin as a cloud storage server.

I have few questions for those that support Core, because I would respectfully love to hear their side of the story as well in order to understand both sides better:

• what is it that "you personally" want to do that you can't do anymore if BIP-110 gains mainstream popularity and replaces Bitcoin Core? how does this hurt you personally? please give as many examples as you can think of.
• how would it be beneficial to send data up to 100KBs on the bitcoin network over something like Discord or WhatsApp?

EDIT: please, if a Core supporter could help us understand us better by answering my first question. what is it that you need to do that requires the increase of OP_RETURN, and what is it that you cannot do anymore with the introduction of BIP-110?

EDIT: I noticed my grammatical error and apologize for any confusion I made on my first question. if any bitcoin core supporters could please elaborate on what is it, that you yourself personally lose the ability to do with bitcoin if BIP-110 replaces Core V30+?

The price action and headlines have been pretty rough lately. Geopolitics, some ETF flows going the other way for a bit, and BTC just sitting lower after coming off higher levels. It’s easy to see why a lot of people are cautious or outright bearish on the near term. What’s interesting though is the RSI on the daily. It’s been moving with price lower but now looks like it’s starting to curl back up. Not screaming reversal yet, but the momentum is shifting off those lower levels in a way that’s caught my eye. I’ve seen setups like this enough times to know they usually feel the worst right when the early signs show up. The core reasons I’m still bullish on Bitcoin long term haven’t changed. Institutional access through ETFs is still there, adoption keeps creeping forward, and we’re still dealing with the supply side from previous halvings. Buying more in the low 60s feels like one of those spots that could look pretty good twelve months from now when we’re looking back. I’m personally adding on these dips instead of waiting for everything to line up perfectly. Could still chop or retest support, that’s always possible. But sitting in cash waiting for the all-clear has cost me opportunities before.What are you guys seeing with the RSI or your own setups right now? Adding, holding, or waiting for more confirmation?

The hardest part of Bitcoin isn't buying it. It's surviving the moment you were right too early.

Everyone wants to buy Bitcoin when the future looks obvious.

That is the problem.

The greatest opportunities in every cycle usually appear when the evidence is still incomplete, the chart looks ugly, and the majority has a reasonable explanation for why waiting is smarter.
Human beings are not bad at recognizing value.
We are bad at recognizing value before consensus approves it.

The market is not designed to test your intelligence.
It tests your patience, your conviction, and your ability to act without emotional permission.

Maybe the biggest mistake isn't buying too early.
Maybe it's waiting until nobody can convince you anymore that you're wrong.

Ten years from now, what do you think people will regret more: buying Bitcoin too early, or never buying because they were waiting for the perfect moment?

Every bitcoin commentator on the internet seems to look at their own local news events and claim these events are somehow good or bad for bitcoins price. From western countries and their local tax policy moves, to conflict in eastern europe or the middle east, to local policy decisions in asia.

But bitcoin is so much larger than any localised narratives, bitcoin is not a local stock market. All that news is nothing but noise.

Bitcoin only cares about aggregate liquidty, and when it comes to aggregate liquidity only one question matters, when the next global "event" hits will global central banks keep rates high and allow a recession to take hold or will they drop rates and stimulate the global economy with money printing?

The answer is simple, since 2008 the worlds central banks and governments have proven unequivocally that their only response to any macro event or crisis will be to cut rates and stimulate because the alternative would smash the global financial system.

The next time central banks and governments face a global crisis they will cut rates and stimulate, and thats all we need to know because easy money policy is what fuels bitcoins adoption and exponential price growth.

So many commentators are expecting a business cycle recession that will crash markets but since 2008 global central bank policy has been stimulus at all costs to protect the traditional financial system.

Central banks wont allow a global recession, at the first sign of any recession or crisis they will stimulate and that means scarce assets will be the best protection from easy money policy.

So forget the local news headlines, ignore any talk of a recession, and just understand that bitcoin will benefit from easy money policy during any potential global crisis.

While we all knew this thing had no chance of passing, it seems like the market players were holding out hope. Now that it will be outright rejected by democrats with no real opportunity to re-draft before the August recess, everyone will come to the same conclusion that its dead.

because not everyone realized this, and because institutional investors are as knee-jerk as retail investors, expect them all to pull away more than they have been in the previous year.

Source: Various news outlets who spoke to senators responsible for drafting the new version have reported the ethics provision is NOT among the new 70 pages. Democrats have already said in no uncertain terms, no ethics provision, no vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/ethics-standoff-clouds-clarity-act-130725334.html

Hi all,

I'm conducting research for my Master's thesis on whether a fixed, algorithmically-determined money supply could function as a viable monetary system. The research examines the trade-offs between rule-based credibility (H1) and macroeconomic risks (deflation, financial stability, policy flexibility).

I'm looking for respondents with economic or finance background to complete a 10 minute survey that assesses:

1. Whether algorithmic rule-binding increases monetary credibility
2. Deflation mechanics in a fixed-money-supply economy
3. Crisis stabilization mechanisms (or lack thereof)
4. Overall viability as a practical alternative to Fiat systems

The survey is anonymous, GDPR-compliant, and will contribute to the broader academic debate about alternative monetary architectures.

If you have professional experience in economics, finance, or related fields and are interested in this question—your informed perspective would be valuable.

→ Survey: https://www.soscisurvey.de/MA544116/

Im aware that this is not necessarily the optimal place to look for answers, but it should be neutral regardless. Thank you!

I've been DCA in since October of 2024 but have recently allotted more to my DCA figure during this bear market. For those who have been in for one or more cycles how does this bear market compare in terms of the rate of which BTC is falling? Looking at previous cycles it appears that the volatility was much greater as opposed to the past 9 months of a drop and then a plateau.

I never really understood this.

If you're holding Bitcoin for the long term, why spend your time spreading fear every time the price drops? If you genuinely believe in your investment, wouldn't short-term volatility just be part of the process?

Or do you think FUD can actually help your position somehow?

Curious to hear your thoughts.????

It just feels like there’s no news, even for a bear market is this worse?

Morgan Stanley Purchases 1,000 Bitcoin, Brings Total Holdings To 5,761 BTC

Morgan Stanley added nearly 1,000 BTC over the past two weeks, bringing its total holdings to 5,761 BTC, according to Arkham data.

I DCA every month but I‘m curious what makes you believe in bitcoin?

I’ve been using Strike for a while and DCA.

I saw that Cash App now has no fees and no spread on recurring buys including 2k purchases or more, while Strike still has a small spread even though the recurring buy fee is gone.

For anyone who’s used both, is it actually worth switching? Or is the difference so small that it’s better to just stick with Strike?

Curious what people who’ve tried both would do.

I can’t believe this

I'm looking to connect with reputable, high-volume Bitcoin OTC providers or brokers.

If you've personally completed large OTC BTC transactions, I'd appreciate any recommendations for established firms or brokers with a strong track record. I'm interested in learning about your experience, how counterparties were verified, and what due diligence was involved.

If you know of a legitimate OTC desk or have experience working with one, feel free to comment or send me a message. Thank you.

I feel like it should be fine too but thought I'd ask if there anything to look out for ( only just starting to buy crypto now so I've never used it )

Ask (and answer!) away! Here are the general rules:

• If you'd like to learn something, ask.
• If you'd like to share knowledge, answer.
• Any question about Bitcoin is fair game.

And don't forget to check out /r/BitcoinBeginners

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How would they spend big money without using banks. Like those hundred million $? Any purchase of physical asset will draw attention of governments.

We're not waiting for the next Bitcoin bull market. We're living through the part everyone wishes they had the courage to buy. The next bull market is being built in complete silence.

When are you going to receive BTC, which network or format do you usually use?

• ⚡ Lightning

• ???? Native SegWit (Standard)

• ???? Taproot / Silent Payments

• ???? Legacy (The one with expensive fees!)

Leave it here in the comments! I want to see who really understands how fees and privacy work around here. ????

Three days ago, I was clearing out my garage and found an old Toshiba laptop from college. I almost tossed it, but for some reason decided to boot it up.

After 20 minutes of watching that Windows Vista loading circle, I noticed a folder labeled 'Important Stuff' with a text document inside.

The document contained what I now know is a private key for a Bitcoin wallet, along with a note I'd written to myself: 'Don't lose this $100 worth of magic internet money.'

At first, I didn't think much of it. But something made me download Electrum and import that key. When the blockchain finished syncing and I saw the balance, my hands started shaking.

It's still there. All 0.1 BTC. At today's prices, that's over $6k.

But here's the thing, I can't move it. Why?

I'm starting to think there's something wrong with the key format or maybe the wallet structure has changed too much since 2013.

Has anyone ever experienced this? The irony is killing me, I find my lost treasure only to discover I can't open the chest.

DMs are open if you've got a brain that works.

Any discussions on bitcoins trend in rest of this year?

Vocês ainda acham que o Bitcoin é um recurso para todos?

On February 24, 2026, Bitcoin exchange Bull Bitcoin filed a petition with France's Conseil d'État, the country's highest administrative court, seeking to annul Decree No. 2025-1276, France's implementation of the EU's DAC8 directive.

What DAC8 actually requires

DAC8 (Directive (EU) 2023/2226, adopted by the EU Council in 2023) took effect January 1, 2026. It requires "crypto-asset service providers", the exchanges most Bitcoin holders use to buy, sell, or cash out, to collect each customer's identity and transaction history and report it annually to their national tax authority. That data is then automatically exchanged with tax authorities in other EU member states, and eventually with non-EU countries that adopt the OECD's parallel Crypto-Asset Reporting Framework (CARF).

Worth being precise here: DAC8 does not regulate self-custody or on-chain activity directly. It's a reporting obligation on regulated exchanges. But if you've ever bought or sold Bitcoin through an EU-licensed exchange, your identity is now tied, inside a government database, to your transaction history.

Key dates

DAC8 in force: January 1, 2026
French decree signed: December 19, 2025 (Décret n° 2025-1276)
Summary petition filed: February 24, 2026, followed by a more detailed legal brief
First reports (covering 2026 activity) due: before September 30, 2027, after which automatic cross-border data exchange begins

The legal argument

Bull Bitcoin's case rests on Article 52 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, arguing that blanket, suspicionless collection of financial data fails the necessity-and-proportionality test. One procedural limit worth flagging: the Conseil d'État can only annul the French decree, not the EU directive itself — though it could refer a question to the Court of Justice of the European Union if it finds a genuine EU-law interpretation issue. Bull Bitcoin has said it's prepared to escalate to the CJEU and France's Constitutional Council if this fails.

The physical-security angle

The petition also raises a safety argument. France's Interior Minister, Laurent Nuñez, said on June 30, 2026, that authorities have recorded 77 cases of kidnapping, extortion, or attempted extortion linked to the crypto sector since the start of 2026, up from 45 for all of 2025. That count comes from the ministry itself, independent of Bull Bitcoin's filing. Bull Bitcoin argues that centralizing identity-linked financial data raises the odds that a future breach could help criminals locate holders; that specific causal chain hasn't been established by French authorities, so treat it as the plaintiff's argument, not a proven fact.

What to watch next

A ruling on the merits isn't expected for one to two years. Worth watching: whether the Conseil d'État refers the case to the CJEU, and whether other EU member states see similar challenges filed. This is the first formal legal test of DAC8 anywhere in the EU, so the outcome (however far off) will matter well beyond France.

Source/analysis: The Bitcoin Act

Hi r/Bitcoin,

A few months ago I shared a slightly unusual experiment here: beer with sats hidden under every cap.

I’m Altan from Beer of Satoshi. The idea was to make someone’s first Lightning interaction as simple as opening a bottle. You scan the QR code under the cap, reveal the reward in your browser, and claim the sats with a Lightning wallet.

The response to the first post was much bigger than I expected, but the comments were more valuable than the attention itself. Some people loved the concept. Others were very direct about its weaknesses.

The first Genesis batch was expensive at roughly €7 per bottle. And for people who did not drink alcohol, the product simply was not an option.

One comment in particular stayed with me: “I like the idea, but I don’t drink alcohol.”

That was a fair point. If the goal is to give more people a simple first Bitcoin experience, alcohol should not be a requirement.

We had already produced a small alcohol-free test batch for Bitcoin Amsterdam 2025. It sold out, but the more interesting part was watching what happened after people opened the bottles. They scanned the caps, compared their rewards, helped each other with Lightning wallets, and made claims right there at the event.

That convinced us to turn the test batch into a proper release.

It is called Beer of Satoshi Zero.

Zero is alcohol-free, but the Bitcoin experience under the cap stays the same. Every bottle reveals a sats reward in the browser, which can then be claimed over Lightning. No account is required, and you do not need a wallet just to reveal the amount. You only need one when you actually want to claim the sats.

We also worked on the price. The 24-pack pre-order is €70.80, which comes to €2.95 per bottle. Smaller packs are available as well.

This is a pre-order rather than ready stock, and the first shipments are planned for Q1 2027.

Since the original Reddit thread, the public leaderboard has grown to 1,780 claims from 767 users, with 470,228 sats distributed.

Those are still small numbers in the wider Bitcoin world, but they are enough to show why the concept can work.

Telling someone to install a Lightning wallet because Bitcoin is interesting often creates friction. Showing them that sats are already waiting under a cap gives them a concrete reason to take the next step.

That moment — when Bitcoin changes from something a person has only heard about into something they have actually received — is still the reason we are building this.

Here is the original discussion:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p4oili/beer_of_satoshi_my_experiment_to_get_real_people/

Beer of Satoshi Zero:

https://shop.beerofsatoshi.com/products/beer-of-satoshi-zero

Public claim leaderboard:

https://leaderboard.beerofsatoshi.com

The feedback on the first post genuinely changed the product. So before we finalise the production run, I would like to ask the community again:

What would you improve about the first-time scan-and-claim experience?

Cheers,
Altan

Hey everyone,
I’m in Canada and I’m planning to buy and hold Bitcoin for the long term. I’m looking for the best hardware (cold) wallet that’s secure and easy to use.
A few questions:
Which cold wallet would you recommend? (Coldcard, Trezor, Ledger, Blockstream Jade, etc.)
Which one has the lowest overall fees to use?
What’s the cheapest exchange in Canada to buy BTC and transfer it to a cold wallet?
Are there any ways to legally reduce taxes when buying and eventually selling Bitcoin in Canada?
I’d really appreciate hearing what you’re personally using and why. Thanks!

Essentially spent $20 million. Not to mention the remaining BTC that got seized by the government when silk road got shut down.

No real regrets though.

Hola, ¿alguien podría decirme si aún es rentable la minería de BTC en 2026?
Tengo una RX 6600, cabe resaltar que no pago energía eléctrica por la zona en donde estoy.

He querido empezar, encontré un programa llamado NiceHash, pero al parecer la gente no da buenas referencias.

Agradezco el apoyo de todos.✌️

Hey everyone,

I wanted to throw my current strategy out there, see what the community thinks, and find out if anyone else is running this exact same setup.

First, the ground rules for my portfolio: I am a long-term Bitcoin believer. I DCA into BTC weekly, I have zero intention of stopping, and my core cold-storage stack is completely untouchable. I’m not selling it.

However, life is happening right now. My family loves to travel, and I want to spend money making memories while the kids are young. I don't want to look back in 10 or 15 years wishing we had taken those trips. At the same time, I absolutely refuse to sell a single sat from my core BTC stack to fund vacations.

To bridge the gap, I’ve started running a parallel strategy using MicroStrategy (MSTR) stock:

The Long-Term Base: Keep the weekly spot BTC DCA running automatically in the background (generational wealth, never to be touched).

The Travel Vehicle: Direct extra, separate capital into MSTR stock inside a traditional brokerage account.

The Target: MSTR acts like a high-beta, corporate-leveraged play on Bitcoin. When BTC ultimately hits a major milestone like $200k+, MSTR should theoretically give me an amplified return on that specific capital.

The Exit: I take profits strictly by selling the MSTR stock to fund family travels, leaving my actual Bitcoin completely intact.

To me, it feels like the ultimate way to "have my cake and eat it too." I get to use the explosive upside of the crypto market to enjoy real-life experiences today, without violating my golden rule of never selling my real Bitcoin.

I know the risks—MSTR’s corporate leverage cuts both ways during drawdowns, and the Net Asset Value (NAV) premium can be highly erratic. But treating it strictly as a volatile lifestyle trading tool feels cleaner than touching cold storage.

Is anyone else out there following this exact same tactic? If you use MSTR as a profit-taking satellite asset while maintaining a separate, permanent spot BTC stack, how has it worked out for you? What do you guys think of this approach?

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Better late than never.

Said humble bitcoin guy.

This might be a dumb question but does anyone remember a project years ago where people ran their computers together trying to scan/guess private keys? Can't remember what it was called.

Did that ever actually work, like finding a real wallet with money in it? My gut says brute forcing a key like that is basically impossible but honestly not sure, hoping someone here knows more than me.

Had to buy Bitcoin to recharge my CivitAI account for AI model purchases. Thought it'd be easy breezy but it was anything but. Used Binance—I have no idea why a currency that's supposed to replace real money and is crowned for anonymity requires me to give every effing detail of my being just to get and transfer. Also, the absurd amounts of commissions just to buy it. If I didn't think this before, now I definitely think this is the biggest fking scam for the biggest fking losers on earth. It literally asked for the address and details of the company I was transferring to, had me record my face and make silly movements just to verify the transfer; there was nothing anonymous about it, just absolute humiliation. Fuk Bitcoin. I'm glad it's dying.

As an ex troller this sub is full of troll, price is just as usual, every cycle. But the people are like to troll. Real life.

Anybody here holding BTCI or the new BITA ETFs? They essentially use options to create "dividends" for shareholders at pretty substantial yields. Pretty juicy returns when BTC was in a bull market and still good but decreasing in conjunction with the drop in BTC prices. I'm thinking of taking on some shares, but then thought, how will these do when the price of BTC is rising since they use option strategies such as covered calls? They would probably have to close out their options if BTC goes parabolic, but would still experience the share price appreciation from holding BTC ETFs. Anyone have thoughts?

In 2012, when I first bought Bitcoin, it was $13 a coin. I watched it go from $13 to over $100,000. Now I’ll watch it go $100,000 to $1 million a coin. You believe yet?

Hello I bought Trezor to pay for my proton/tuta email with bitcoin. How can I stay anonymous? I see that to buy bitcoin with Trezor in the USA they need my drivers license info with third party companies if buying from credit card or PayPal. Should I still do this or buy the bitcoin another way for more safety/security?

Thanks for help, ask me anything

How a wallet that adopted my privacy framework turned technical disagreement into a reputational war—and what I got wrong too

The fully sourced and illustrated version, together with the complete evidence archive, is available on GitHub. The archive preserves court filings, source-code snapshots, public posts, private-message records, Research Club transcripts, and screenshots.

After law enforcement seized Samourai Wallet’s servers, William Hill—TDevD—messaged an associate:

“Not good.”

“I’m not thinking so much about Whirlpool as I am about the wallet backends (xpubs).”

An extended public key cannot spend a user’s bitcoin, but it can reveal the addresses derived from a wallet and follow their history. For years, I had argued that Samourai’s default backend created exactly this point of failure. Hill’s message, reproduced in the government’s sentencing memorandum, showed that he understood why the seizure of that backend mattered.

The seizure did not create the xpub problem. It exposed the consequences of a design choice that had been there from the start.

I do not offer this post-mortem as vindication. A prison sentence cannot settle a protocol dispute, and an indictment cannot make every allegation true. I will distinguish what the public record establishes, what I infer from it, and what I remember but cannot independently prove.

To understand what was sitting on that server—and why I had spent years shouting about it—we have to go back to a README file in July 2017, before the feud began.

How ZeroLink actually began

I wanted Samourai to succeed in implementing ZeroLink. I wanted more wallets to implement serious Bitcoin privacy, and I wanted ZeroLink to become useful software rather than another specification admired by a small circle and ignored by everyone else.

I created ZeroLink. The repository history makes the chronology clear.

I opened it on July 28, 2017. Before Samourai made a single commit, I had made 19 commits and written a 184-line, 2,883-word document containing the framework’s core architecture. Samourai’s first commit arrived two days later. Its title was “Fix typos”. It did exactly that.

ZeroLink was not merely a name for a CoinJoin transaction. It was a privacy framework for Bitcoin wallets: blinded coordination together with rules for network privacy, coin selection, transaction chains, and spending after the mix. Chaumian CoinJoin was the protocol; ZeroLink was the wider wallet framework. That is the work Samourai later claimed to have co-created.

At the August 14 publication snapshot, Git blame attributes 6,126 of the document’s 6,627 words to me and 242 to Bill/TDevD. Their only sizeable technical addition concerned BIP47 and stealth addresses.

At the time, I did not understand what problem that proposal solved or why it belonged in ZeroLink. Instead of challenging it, I assumed I was missing something and accepted it out of politeness. Two days later, I clarified that BIP47 was not part of the protocol, and I removed the section in 2019. The rest of their work was overwhelmingly light editing.

I had also placed TDevD in the Authors section before that proposal was committed. Both decisions came from the same reflex: they spoke with confidence, I assumed any confusion was mine, and I tried to be generous. That politeness was later used to support an authorship claim the repository does not support.

By 2022—three years after I had publicly challenged the co-creation story, with the Git history still open for inspection—Samourai was still repeating it.

I regard those later repetitions as a lie. “Collaboration” can be innocent shorthand before anyone disputes it. It stops being innocent after the primary record is placed in front of you and you continue telling the version that promotes you from reviewer and prospective implementer to co-creator.

Our contact was limited. We barely spoke, and I was never part of Samourai. I had created ZeroLink; Samourai said it intended to implement it.

Brian “Shinobi” Trollz, who observed the dispute at the time, later recalled a specific turning point. I asked for a week to consider whether coordinators could be run altruistically. During that week, he said, Samourai’s posture toward me shifted into mockery. By April 2019, I had recorded that they were no longer interested or responsive and that I had continued independently.

People can disagree about why our limited contact ended. The authorship record is not a matter of recollection.

The central privacy difference

The authorship dispute mattered to me. The architectural difference between the wallets mattered to users.

Wasabi’s default architecture was designed to deny its own operator the wallet graph. The backend distributed block filters; clients checked addresses locally; wallet traffic went through Tor; and blinded CoinJoin credentials prevented the coordinator from linking a registered input to its output. A user did not have to operate a personal server to hide addresses and transaction history from us. Privacy from the service operator was the default.

Samourai’s default client sent extended public keys to Samourai’s hosted backend. Whoever possesses an xpub can derive its associated addresses and follow their transactions.

Samourai’s own Dojo documentation disclosed the consequence indirectly. Running MyDojo improved privacy by “completely bypassing” the default hosted servers, while its Tracker recorded registered xpubs and addresses.

Then came the clearest lie in the xpub argument.

In October 2022, Kruw pointed out that the default app exposed the user’s xpub and asked why Samourai would not use BIP157/BIP158 client-side filters. The official wallet account refused, defended what it called “the best architecture for our needs,” and claimed it had been “open and truthful from day one.”

When asked whether wider BIP157 adoption would change that decision, the official account answered:

“We are a full node wallet. Always have been.”

That statement remains public.

It was false. The Android app was a light client of a backing server. Dojo could place that server and a Bitcoin Core node under the user’s control, but it did not turn the phone into a full node. Samourai’s own 2019 announcement said default users had to trust its servers with their public keys. Hill’s sentencing submission later described the architecture as one used by “light wallets.”

Tor support existed, but it was not enabled by default. Samourai’s signed source allowed a user to create a wallet while Tor remained off, treated the Tor preference as false unless the user enabled it, and used the ordinary network path for xpub requests when Tor was disabled.

An April 2023 report on Samourai’s own GitLab included the wallet-creation screen with Tor off, Dojo unconfigured, and Create a new wallet still available. The issue, titled “Important privacy features are disabled by default,” proposed enabling Tor and Dojo by default or at least warning users what the disabled settings exposed.

A Samourai project owner said the proposal would not be merged, called the report “concern trolling,” issued a “first and final warning,” and immediately closed it. The archived issue preserves the exchange.

The privacy problem was reported on their own development platform. Their response was to reject the change and threaten the reporter.

An earlier exchange used a different evasion. In July 2022, a user wrote:

“Xpub is sent to whirlpool servers.”

Hill answered:

“No xpubs are handled by the coordinator.”

The xpubs went to Samourai’s wallet backend, not the Whirlpool coordinator. He changed the noun while avoiding the issue. In the same reply, he claimed Samourai had implemented ZeroLink “on spec,” something I supposedly “didn’t have the skill set to do.” The post simultaneously evaded the backend question and reversed the authorship record.

Sentinel, Samourai’s watch-only app, made the architecture even easier to see. A watch-only wallet legitimately needs an xpub, and Sentinel correctly said it could not spend the user’s coins. The privacy question was what happened after the user imported that xpub.

In August 2017, Samourai committed a change titled “move XPUB multiaddr to Samourai API”. From then on, Sentinel sent tracked xpubs to Samourai’s hosted backend. It did so for more than two years before Tor routing was added. When Tor arrived, its preference defaulted to off.

Sentinel could not steal users’ coins. Its hosted mode could map their wallets. That collection was integral to the product, not incidental telemetry.

Dojo arrived years later

Dojo did not erase what the default client had already disclosed.

Dojo’s server code was released on June 2, 2019, nearly four years into Samourai’s life. Even then, Samourai said the wallet required another update before it could pair with Dojo.

Version 0.99.81 finally added pairing on July 11, 2019, but only for a newly created wallet. Restoring an existing wallet was explicitly unsupported. Samourai’s own release announcement instructed users to create a new wallet after pairing.

An earlier user who wanted to stop using Samourai’s hosted servers therefore had to create a new wallet behind Dojo and move funds out of the old wallet. That could prevent disclosure of the new wallet’s xpub. It could not retract the old xpub or history already sent to Samourai. A direct transfer between the wallets would also remain visible on-chain.

Dojo gave later self-hosters a way to avoid future disclosure. It did not retroactively protect default users.

The Blockchain.info lineage

William led the Blockchain.info Android wallet project that preceded Samourai. He opened the surviving Android-Wallet-2-App history with its April 2014 initial commit and is its dominant visible developer by commit count.

His sentencing submission calls him Blockchain.com’s senior mobile developer. Contemporary coverage identifies Keonne Rodriguez as the product lead responsible for the refreshed wallet’s interface and user experience. William’s commits even include “UI prep for shared coin”, referring to Blockchain.info’s earlier mixing product.

They did not create Blockchain.info itself. They did lead the mobile-wallet project from which Samourai emerged.

Samourai then kept its own source private for approximately a year. At the time, it said this delay was deliberate and intended to give the product a competitive “leg-up.” When the first public Samourai snapshot appeared in March 2016, it contained unmistakable Blockchain.info lineage.

That does not mean the entire application was a verbatim copy. It does contradict the image of a clean-sheet privacy wallet appearing from nowhere.

SharedCoin matters because its trust problem was already understood. It was noncustodial, but its server constructed the joins and knew their links. Public transaction ambiguity could not provide privacy from the operator that already knew the mapping.

Samourai rebuilt that operator-trust problem by collecting wallet-level public keys on its default server.

I raised this before the seizure. In an April 2020 Wasabi Research Club discussion about ZeroLink, I described the rejected design plainly: a trusted central server to which everyone sends their xpubs. That, I said, “obviously sounds pretty stupid,” which is why ZeroLink used blinded coordination.

In July 2021, I again explained that if a server possesses the xpub, repeated mixing cannot erase what the server already knows. In September 2022, during a discussion of balance-query architectures, I warned that an xpub retained on another computer could later be exposed through hacking or seizure.

The government seized Samourai’s servers in April 2024.

The practical distinction was whether the operator was technically prevented from learning wallet relationships or merely trusted not to use them.

Wasabi was not perfect against every imaginable adversary. No honest system built on Bitcoin, Tor, fallible software, and human behavior can promise that. But against the service operator—the adversary at the center of this dispute—Wasabi placed cryptography and local processing between the user and us. Samourai relied on trust in its operator.

Sockpuppets and attacks on critics

My first SamouraiLeaks investigation began with the suspicion that one of Samourai’s developers was promoting the project and attacking critics through an identity presented as independent.

In April 2019, I published the evidence that “foneBTC” and “fone-btc” were TDevD/William Hill’s sockpuppet accounts. The investigation itself contains the proof.

The problem was not the use of a pseudonym. Pseudonyms are normal in Bitcoin. The problem was hidden affiliation used to manufacture consensus: one participant appearing to be several, promotion made to look organic, and an interested party presenting himself as a neutral observer.

In a field where few users can audit every cryptographic claim themselves, reputation becomes part of the security model. Astroturfing corrupts that model.

Before publishing, I tried private discussion, sought a mediator, and offered to stop discussing Samourai if the attacks stopped. Eventually, I concluded that my silence was being treated as permission rather than de-escalation.

Other developers then began describing the same treatment.

Gregory Maxwell said architectural criticism was answered with harassment and accusations instead of a technical response. Nicolas Dorier described the reaction he received after pointing out that the default backend received users’ extended public keys. Their comments remain in the original discussion, including Dorier’s account.

Luke Dashjr said that disclosing an RPC-password exposure in a setup guide brought an accusation that he operated a criminal protection racket. Chris Belcher later described substantive BIP47 objections being answered by smears against the people raising them.

These were independent developers, not a Wasabi group. Several of them also criticized Wasabi. Their accounts described the same response: technical objections were redirected toward the critic’s motives, status, or character.

Accuse loudly, qualify quietly

After enough repetitions, the pattern became predictable: begin with something real—an uncertainty, compromise, or bug—then attach the most damaging possible interpretation and promote that interpretation as the headline.

When contrary evidence appears, place the qualification where fewer people will see it: inside a reply, outside a screenshot, or silently inside a later code change.

Samourai claimed I had admitted Wasabi supplied its own liquidity. I had made no such admission. The journalist responsible for the report corrected that characterization, but the correction never travelled as far as the accusation. Another observer documented how Samourai’s presentation excluded my correction and contrary replies.

The same technique appeared in the Tor-identity dispute. In April 2023, a user asked whether Whirlpool changed Tor circuits between input registration and output registration. Keonne Rodriguez answered categorically that it did and dismissed the questioner as a known liar.

In March 2024, the Whirlpool client added an explicit changeIdentity() call immediately before output registration. The code comment said the new identity was used to “unlink from input.”

The later commit cannot establish that previous users were deanonymized or that anyone exploited the earlier behavior. It does establish that the categorical answer was not justified. A precise response in 2023 would have explained what the code did, what had been verified, and what remained uncertain. Rodriguez answered with certainty and an insult. The code changed later.

That response culture made reporting problems socially expensive. Even small bugs became difficult to discuss because the reporter risked becoming the subject.

OXT was owned by Samourai

OXT was not an independent research group that happened to agree with Samourai.

In December 2017, Samourai announced that it had “finalized the acquisition” of OXT in an all-bitcoin transaction and described the purchase as a long-term strategic investment.

Years later, an OXT developer’s support letter included in William’s own sentencing submission described OXT as a Bitcoin forensic tool “owned and operated by Samourai Wallet.” The government separately described William and Keonne as operating OXT as a tracing and wallet-attribution tool.

Samourai denounced surveillance companies while owning and operating a blockchain tracing and wallet-attribution tool of its own.

In August 2020, this Samourai-owned research arm announced two supposed Wasabi vulnerabilities, rated them High/Critical, claimed they could cancel privacy gained from earlier mixes, and gave us forty-eight hours to publish a warning on its terms.

The full report contained a fatal premise: the attacker had to know the composition of the target’s wallet at a chosen point in time and know events affecting that wallet’s participation in later rounds.

That was not a small condition. It supplied the wallet membership the alleged attack was supposed to uncover.

OXT’s demonstration avoided the problem by controlling both sides. Its “Alice” started with a known coin. Its “Eve” already knew which funds belonged to Alice and ran a modified Wasabi client that logged round events. Given the wallet’s exact starting state, public coin-selection code could sometimes predict which coins the client would offer next.

That showed that known software can behave predictably when the observer is handed its private starting state. It did not demonstrate how an outside observer could discover an unknown wallet’s contents, identify an unknown mixed output as the target’s, or recover the blinded input-to-output link.

Even in that constructed test, predictions failed because of confirmation states, failed rounds, and coordinator behavior. OXT called those deviations “exogenous randomness.” Its reported “adjusted anonsets” were values produced by its own model—not identities uncovered or input-output links recovered.

My contemporaneous response explained that distinction.

Adding randomness can be reasonable hardening without validating a claimed exploit. Samourai later treated Wasabi 2’s different coin-selection behavior as an admission that OXT had been right. The timeline contradicts that story. The Wasabi 2 research effort began in January 2020, and WabiSabi was publicly presented in June—before OXT’s August disclosure.

The hypocrisy was direct: OXT’s hypothetical attacker needed to begin with a target’s wallet map, while Samourai’s actual default backend collected wallet maps.

OXT itself later wrote that privacy guarantees must come from default software behavior, not burdens placed on users. Samourai’s default failed that standard. Avoiding its hosted backend required the user to run Dojo.

Criminal association as a marketing weapon

Samourai and OXT repeatedly attached Wasabi’s name to alleged criminal activity and then treated the association itself as evidence against us.

The trap worked either way. If we answered, we helped spread the association. If we stayed silent, they presented the silence as a concession. In some cases, answering meaningfully would have required disclosing operational knowledge or investigative methods that could not safely be made public. The absence of a public response did not mean agreement.

Samourai’s double standard became especially ugly after Luke Dashjr’s theft.

On January 4, 2023, OXTObserver flagged 204.77460928 BTC as #LUKE-JR_STOLEN_FUNDS and described the wallet as controlled by hackers. Samourai Wallet reposted the alert. A user asked what Samourai would do if the thieves tried to mix the coins in Whirlpool.

The official account answered:

“If they go into Whirlpool? Relish in the delicious irony and extra salt in Luke’s gaping wound.”

The exchange remains public.

It does not establish that the stolen coins entered Whirlpool. It establishes how Samourai’s official account reacted to the possibility because the victim was Luke.

By 2022, legal and regulatory pressure on zkSNACKs was threatening the survival of the company-run coordination service. The default coordinator began rejecting some UTXOs. I had argued against blacklisting, and users who felt betrayed had a legitimate grievance.

That policy was censorship by one service. It did not reveal the relationship between accepted inputs and their outputs. The protocol still blinded that relationship; Wasabi remained MIT-licensed; and alternative coordinators could operate without zkSNACKs’ policy.

Samourai turned the policy dispute into the claim that Wasabi had become a surveillance wallet. The comparison ignored the architectures: zkSNACKs refused some inputs without learning their outputs, while Samourai’s default backend received and retained ordinary users’ wallet maps.

The megaphone was bigger than the product

Samourai’s Twitter presence made the rivalry look symmetrical despite the large difference in usage.

Dumplings—my reproducible CoinJoin scanner—separated fresh bitcoin entering a mixer from coins merely being remixed. From Whirlpool’s first detected month in April 2019 through the dataset’s end in August 2022, it identified approximately 247,675 fresh BTC entering Wasabi and 30,228 entering Whirlpool.

Wasabi led in every one of those forty-one months.

This measures bitcoin volume, not unique users. It is nevertheless the opposite of adoption parity. Whirlpool’s headline transaction totals were enlarged by free remixes, through which the same bitcoin could appear in round after round without representing a new user or newly arriving funds.

Samourai had a large social-media megaphone. It did not have comparable adoption by this measure.

Moving privacy problems did not solve them

Whirlpool advertised CoinJoin transactions with no toxic change. Its TX0 transaction kept the change outside the CoinJoin and placed it in a separate account so users would be less likely to spend it accidentally with mixed coins.

That was useful. It did not make the toxic change disappear. Samourai itself later called those coins “unmixed toxic change” while proposing a way to swap them into Monero.

TX0 publicly joined the deposit inputs, created fixed-denomination premix outputs, and exposed which first Whirlpool rounds spent them. Peeling change off before the CoinJoin did not create another on-chain break between that change and the first mix. It moved the point where the change appeared.

Fixed denominations created costs at both ends. A user could have to combine inputs publicly to enter a pool. Later, an ordinary payment would rarely equal one pool denomination, so the user could have to combine post-mix outputs and create new change.

Equal-output CoinJoins still provided privacy. Remix counts alone could not show whether that privacy survived the eventual spend.

The coordinator-fee address revealed another double standard. In 2020, Samourai condemned Wasabi’s reuse of a coordinator-fee address in absolute terms and said there was “no going back” from the damage.

In October 2023, Kruw reported that Whirlpool’s coordinator had reused one fee address across 37 transactions. In one cited transaction, 36 outputs from that address were consolidated as inputs. The archived report survives.

That reuse does not itself prove Whirlpool users were demixed. The issue is the standard Samourai applied: it described address reuse in Wasabi as irreversible architectural damage, while Kruw says his equivalent report about Whirlpool was deleted.

Precision matters in both directions

The record contains real Samourai security failures, ambiguous claims, and some historical mislabeling. They should not be treated as one undifferentiated charge sheet.

In 2021, an independent researcher disclosed a genuine local PIN-bypass weakness. Restarting the app reset the attempt counter; wallet metadata required for an offline PIN search was available on the device; and the PIN space was small. The issue became CVE-2021-36689.

That was a defined security failure with a specific version and threat model. It was not evidence that every Samourai wallet could be drained remotely.

My SamouraiLeaks Part 3 investigation concerned an earlier and different codebase: the Blockchain.info Android wallet William led before Samourai. That repository contained a generator that fetched entropy from Random.org over unencrypted HTTP. Under a narrow fallback path on older Android devices, a redirect combined with failed local entropy could produce deterministic key material. Ars Technica reported the conditions and risks in 2015.

That history documents a serious engineering failure under particular conditions. It does not establish that every Samourai wallet used broken randomness or that William stole anybody’s coins.

Those distinctions are what responsible security disclosure requires: what happened, who was affected, what is inferred, and what remains unknown.

Samourai’s communications culture often treated those distinctions as weakness when answering critics, then demanded endless qualification when scrutiny turned inward.

When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty

The public posts document individual incidents, but they cannot fully convey their cumulative effect over several years.

I began to approach technical conversations as possible trials of character because bug reports, imprecise reporting, and edited recordings could all be reframed as evidence of bad intent. Leaving a false claim unanswered allowed it to spread. Answering prolonged the conflict.

I spent time preserving evidence that I wanted to spend on code. Friends and independent developers had to decide whether correcting the record was worth becoming the next target.

I did not handle that well.

I called the project “Scamourai” and swore at them. In 2019, CoinDesk quoted one of my replies simply saying, “Fuck you.” That anger produced little of value. The childish nickname allowed a long evidentiary record to be mistaken for reciprocal mudslinging and made it easier for outsiders to conclude that both sides were merely marketing tribes.

I also sometimes spoke with more certainty than the evidence allowed. Receiving an xpub, retaining it, selling it, and maliciously querying it are separate claims. I knew the default backend received wallet-level public information. Before the server analysis became public, I did not know everything Samourai retained or did with it.

I should have marked those boundaries in an angry tweet as carefully as I would in a protocol review.

I regret the way I spoke. It made the documented issues easier to dismiss.

Threats and doxxing

By April 2023, the conflict had passed far beyond professional hostility.

I received multiple threats that I understood as death threats from William Hill. I also received anonymous private threats during the same campaign. The screenshots cannot establish who controlled those anonymous accounts, so I distinguish them from Hill’s public posts.

One anonymous message sent me a full address in Besenyszög. I censored the street-level portion before preserving it. Another sender claimed to have checked an address and seen me and my “stinking tribe,” asked whether I thought I could stay safe, and ended:

“Don’t worry Nopara. We shall meet. Won’t be pretty on your end.”

The screenshots establish what I received. They do not establish who operated the anonymous accounts.

Hill’s public conduct requires less inference.

He posted my parents’ home address more than once. I will not reproduce or link to those posts, because documenting doxxing does not require doing it again.

On April 18, 2023, the official Samourai Wallet account posted “Snitches get stitches”.

Two days later, Hill addressed me directly:

“As a die hard collaborator, you deserve much worse.”

“Let’s see how this plays out, OK bud?”

The attached image showed armed men surrounding a seated captive whose head was being shaved. I understood the combination of those words and that image as a threat. The post remains available here.

In February 2024, Hill wrote that I was “way overdue to get yours” and appended the name of my parents’ town. A follower replied:

“Hope he gets stitches and ends up in a ditch.”

Hill answered:

“Yes.”

“Soon.”

The first post and Hill’s reply remain public.

Six weeks later, Hill wrote:

“It ain’t over until the fat boy is gutted (see bio).”

He placed those words above Yasushi Nagao’s famous photograph of the onstage assassination of Japanese Socialist Party chairman Inejirō Asanuma. I had originally misremembered the victim as a Japanese prime minister. The recovered post identifies the photograph correctly. That correction does not change the nature of the post.

As preserved on July 10, 2026, Hill’s public profile still named me, repeated the “gutted” language, and appended the small town where my parents live.

Publishing my family’s location beside violent language was intimidation.

What the server seizure revealed

When Samourai’s founders were arrested in April 2024, I refused to treat the indictment as a verdict. Privacy software is not money laundering simply because criminals use it. The legal boundary around noncustodial software was—and remains—important.

But law enforcement also seized Samourai’s servers, and later court filings addressed the technical issues I had been raising for years.

In October 2025, the government said its server analysis showed that Rodriguez and Hill had retained enough information to trace or “demix” many mobile users’ Whirlpool transactions. By cross-referencing stored xpubs with past, present, and future Whirlpool transactions, an analyst could connect inputs and outputs through complex analysis.

The filing stated an important limit: this did not by itself connect those transactions to real-world identities.

The defense did not deny xpub collection. Hill’s sentencing submission tried to recast it as a functional necessity: users without their own nodes needed the backend to calculate balances, it said, and the design affected “only 20%” of Whirlpool users.

That was a consequence of Samourai’s chosen architecture, not a universal requirement of light wallets. Wasabi obtained block filters and checked addresses on the client without giving our server the wallet’s xpub.

The filing supplied no citation, methodology, underlying counts, or independent measurement for its 20 percent figure. It may have been a figure provided by Samourai and repeated by its lawyers. The public submission gives us no way to know.

Even if accepted for the sake of argument, one in five Whirlpool users is not trivial. More importantly, the argument conceded the architecture I had objected to:

• A class of users gave its wallet graph to Samourai’s infrastructure.
• Samourai retained that information.
• The seizure placed it in government hands.

The government’s “demix” finding is a representation in a sentencing memorandum, not an independently published forensic report. That qualification matters. So does the fact that Hill’s own post-seizure concern was not primarily Whirlpool itself, but “the wallet backends (xpubs).”

The darknet double standard

The June 2025 superseding indictment reproduced private messages and Dread posts in which Hill steered people who openly described criminal proceeds away from a competing mixer and toward Whirlpool. It alleged that Rodriguez knew Hill was doing substantial promotional work on Dread.

This mattered because Samourai and OXT had repeatedly used alleged criminal use of Wasabi as part of their public case against us. The later record showed Samourai pursuing those same users as customers.

On Dread, competitor disparagement was not abstract privacy research. It was a sales pitch aimed at people asking how to conceal criminal proceeds.

In August 2025, Rodriguez and Hill each pleaded guilty to conspiring to operate a money-transmitting business knowing it transmitted crime proceeds. The money-laundering conspiracy count was dropped through their plea agreements. In November, Rodriguez received five years in prison and Hill four.

The sentences did not resolve the software arguments. The prosecution also raised troubling due-process questions. Before the pleas, the defense argued that prosecutors had disclosed too late a FinCEN communication saying Samourai’s lack of control over users’ keys strongly suggested it was not a money-services business under FinCEN’s rules. The government disputed the significance of that communication.

Anyone who cares about open-source privacy software should care about that issue too.

The lies and hypocrisies

Developers can be mistaken, remember events differently, or speak with unjustified confidence. I use “lie” more narrowly: a materially false account repeated after contrary evidence has been presented because the false version remains useful.

By that standard:

• The ZeroLink co-creation story was a lie. The framework predated Samourai’s involvement. Its first contribution fixed typos. Samourai kept repeating the joint-origin account after I challenged it with the repository.
• The claim that I admitted Wasabi supplied its own liquidity was false. The journalist corrected the interpretation, but Samourai continued promoting the damaging version without my correction.
• The categorical Tor answer was false or recklessly certain. Rodriguez insulted the person asking, and the code later added the identity change the question had asked about.
• “We are a full node wallet. Always have been” was false. Without Dojo, the Android application was a light client of Samourai’s backend.
• The coordinator answer was an evasion. The Whirlpool coordinator may not have handled xpubs, but Samourai’s wallet backend did.
• OXT was not an independent referee. It was acquired, owned, and operated by Samourai while presenting severe claims against Samourai’s main competitor under a research label.
• Samourai’s position on surveillance was hypocritical. It denounced blockchain-surveillance companies while operating a tracing and wallet-attribution tool and collecting wallet maps on its default backend.
• Its position on address reuse was a double standard. It described Wasabi’s reuse as irreversible architectural damage, while equivalent reuse later appeared in Whirlpool.
• Its use of criminal association was selective. It attacked Wasabi through alleged criminal use while privately promoting Whirlpool to darknet users describing criminal proceeds.
• Its central privacy promise was contradicted by its defaults. The wallet sent xpubs to Samourai’s hosted backend and left Tor off unless the user enabled it. In that configuration, the same service could receive both the wallet graph and the connecting IP address.

I use the name “Scamourai” to describe what I see as a false central promise, not as a legal accusation of fraud. The product sold resistance to surveillance while placing its operator in a position to surveil. It promoted verification while asking default users to trust that Samourai would not misuse wallet information its servers retained.

To me, that went beyond imperfect privacy because the contradiction was built into the default architecture.

Post-mortem

The lasting damage was not only personal. It affected the authorship record and the possibility of productive competition.

I gave TDevD more credit than the repository justified. Samourai inflated that credit into co-creation. Minor edits became joint research through repetition. The same culture made correction look like surrender and uncertainty look like weakness, turning technical competition into personal hostility.

I contributed to that hostility by answering contempt with contempt. I cannot undo those words, but I can document the history more carefully now.

Future privacy developers should not take this essay as a request to trust me or as a rule that every server and coordinator is unacceptable.

The practical lesson is simpler: examine what an operator can learn if its infrastructure is compromised, coerced, hacked, or seized. Team identity, marketing, and a founder’s character are not privacy guarantees.

A sound privacy protocol should continue protecting its users when trust in the operator fails.

That is the standard I tried to build into ZeroLink.

It is also the standard Samourai told its users to expect.

The seized servers show why the difference mattered.

And then transfer it to a cold wallet?

Bitcoin is the best performing asset in human history, and we can just scale in at the scheduled bear market lows that occur every 4 years and 5x our money in a few years?

I had these same thoughts after the FTX capitulation, that surely it can’t be this easy to buy here and wait. Sure enough, bitcoin went up almost 800% off the lows and I made a ton of money. Are they really going to let us do it again??

Freeport is a P2P marketplace (rides, services, goods) running entirely on Nostr relays - no server, no middleman. It now has payments built in:

- Self-custodial Lightning (Breez SDK / Spark) - the app never holds funds

- Wallet key derived from your Nostr key: one backup covers identity + wallet

- No signup - keypair generated on-device, optional passkey login

- Lightning address, bolt11, on-chain

- Confirmed deals get a Pay button / QR with the agreed amount, auto-converted from fiat

Fun fact: you can download the HTML file from releases page to run the whole app ????

For me, it was realizing that not taking a trade is also a valid trading decision.

Earlier I felt like I had to trade every day.

Now I wait for high-quality setups, and my results have improved a lot.

What's one lesson that changed your trading journey?

Hi all, still new to BTC, been DCAing a couple of months now just as a possible alternative investment. I haven't been paying much attention to the price movement over the years (except when it would rocket up or down). My question for long timers is, have any really big moves occured on weekend days? I know it is technically a 24/7 asset, but have there been any surprise moves when no one was expecting them?

At 46 years old and minimal retirement savings so far, I've been absorbing alot of people's perspectives on the best route for achieving my goals in a 15-yearish window. I'm unlikely to live to see hyperbitcoinization or the collapse of the fiat system. It seems like the most rational, reasonable approach would be to heavy index funds along with some Bitcoin ETFs. Safe and uncomplicated.

I'm going with real Bitcoin in cold storage.

Why? Because it stirs something in me. It makes me feel like I'm part of a revolution that the world desperately needs, rather than simply riding it's coattails to get my basic needs met. It feels more like living life rather than just prolonging it. That to me is worth some extra risk and effort.

Are there any good stable exchanges to buy btc in Serbia?

In 2021, I lost my brother. He struggled with addiction for years, and even though we tried everything to help him, it eventually took his life. Going through his things afterward was one of the hardest experiences I’ve ever had. Mixed in with the chaos of his old notebooks, devices, and personal items, I found a Bitcoin wallet he had been using.

It has around 1 BTC in it. I know that’s not a fortune, but right now it feels huge. I’m out of work, and I have a baby to take care of. Every day is a balancing act between grief, responsibility, and trying to keep us afloat. That 1 BTC wouldn’t fix everything, but it would give us some breathing room — something I haven’t felt in a long time.

The problem is: I can’t find his seed phrase. I’ve searched every notebook, every scrap of paper, every old phone, every email account. Nothing. It’s like it vanished with him.

I’m posting here because I don’t know where else to turn. I’m not looking to hand over sensitive info or fall for scams — I just want to know if anything can be done. If there are legitimate recovery methods or professionals who can help in situations like this. If someone can genuinely help and it’s real and verifiable, I’m willing to pay for the work (10% or whatever is fair).

Here is the wallet address if anyone needs it for context or wants to check activity:
1BAhzEdUxGqXmtdqPZ8GFBS5nZ6z1yjBhE

Any advice, guidance, or help means more than I can express.

If one is able to get these funds to my wallet:

bc1q9430zj28uvmhe70r2gyghxpr5ve6xzzggkf9nc

It would be a lifesaver.

I went to impulse buy a mini pc and 2 TB SSD to run a full node only to find out that will run me well over $500 and 2 TB SSD will not be enough space in the next handful of years and in need to spend more money.

How does bitcoin expect to have world wide node operators when people in first world countries with full time employment (<1% global population) are not willing to fork over full node money and the prices are only continuing to expand for storage along with total storage needed also expanding?

I realize that pruned nodes are a thing but what happens when the only full nodes being run are corporate types that have gov and investor eyes on their backs?

Will bitcoin be able to maintain its white papers ethos of peer to peer e cash at the current rate? I would argue it already failed at the original claims. Maybe it will be successful as some other thing.

Please assist. Not trying to be mean but these topics affect people’s savings so I believe they should be straight to the point so common people can make educated decisions.

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Basically, the 40K guy. He's truly bizzare. Keep saying If it hits 40K I'm going all in! but here's the truth? if it doesn't hit 40K he's all out! or even worse when 40K finally comes, he skeedadle, and not buying this so called bitocin! absolute cinema!

I’m recently in 15k, wondering why it takes weeks to even go up higher than it went down within 24 hours.

Hello all,

I am receiving a windfall next week. Probably the only time in my life I will see such a thing. I want to buy a whole bitcoin thru Fidelity but want to know other options that are out there for purchasing bitcoin. Any suggestions are welcomed.

Here’s my original thought that has likely been thought of before.

Theres dozens of reasons one could argue for in favor of either side whether they support gold or Bitcoin.

However the one reason that trumps them all, I think, is the fact that as we all know, there will only ever be 21 Million BTC.

On the flip side, who knows if one day a massive amount of gold will be discovered? Advances in mining technology, whether it be more efficient processing equipment or high tech scanning instruments, could greatly increase the global supply of gold. Perhaps an asteroid will crash from outer space one day bringing incomprehensible amounts of gold with it.

The point being, there are a ton of unknowns with the future of the gold supply, meanwhile the Bitcoin supply is completely predictable, and will be as long as the internet is still up and running.

Does anyone agree or disagree with this thought?

There’s 2 types of people with $10,000

First type buys a $3,000 and invests the $7k

The second buys a $25,000 car and makes payments for the next 5 years.

Just be the first guy. It doesn’t have to be 100% bitcoin. But don’t let these bears scare you. There’s a reason we’re all here.

Bitcoiners are all like the first individual. Well take that $3,000 car and make it last for years. Not just investing the $7k but having leftovers each month to invest too.

Bitcoiners are smart and that’s why it’s going $250k+

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a secure hot wallet for Bitcoin and other cryptos Security is the most important thing for me, but I also want something that's easy to use

What hot wallet do you use and why? I'd like to hear your recommendations and experiences

Thanks!

Whats your thoughts for the next cycle? I cpuld to a trad fi company like hargreaves, trading 212 even coinbase and buy direct,

Buy via IFISA we have stratiphy, no tax, what u think on this company????

Its a big choice to make in a couple of months

What other indicators are there to pay attention to than the cyclical nature of bitcoin in 2026

Like seriously?

The 4 year cycle is intact…. Do you think or do you not think ….

History is repeating itself…..

Every 4 years, whens the best time to buy then people….

Pretty obvious right ? Or am i in a vacuum here?

i have my few recent bitcoins in my trustwallet's wallet should i import that wallet to my bluewallet or make a new wallet for that

is it the same thing cause i heard that trustwallet is not safe and they do a lot of changes and recent updates are very bad they are showing wrong usd and rates very buggy so if i import my trustwallet's wallet there will that become more secure

i want to just buy €20 of crypto but every p2p site i visited has a minimum of €50, can anyone help me?

Cual seria la mejor estrategia para llegar de 0 a 200.000 euros en 2 años. Que es el tiempo que tengo para hacerlo?

Re: Security 2010-07-10 12:58:02 UTC - - I'll start thinking about how to do this. At the moment, you can kind of use -connect. You can use -connect to make it connect to local computers on your LAN, like -connect=192.168.0.100. If you start it out blank and don't let it connect to the main network, the difficulty is still at the original low difficulty. If you've port-forwarded though, then outside nodes might still connect inward to you. With -connect it still uses IRC, do you think it shouldn't get on IRC when you're telling it to only connect to specific nodes with -connect? The main scenario for - connect is where you have a server farm, with two connected to the network and the rest connected to the first two. In that case, you wouldn't want the -connect computers on IRC. void ThreadIRCSeed(void* parg) { if (mapArgs.count("-connect")) return;

Satoshi, would you be open to a --testnetwork (or something) flag to bitcoin that swapped to an alternate genesis block, data directory, listen port and IRC channel? Maybe with a really short average block generation time, too (like once per minute instead of once per 10 minutes) so everything happens ten times a fast to make testing quicker.

I second this, however I don't think block generation time should be changed. I think it should be identical to the production network. This, for example, would allow testers to try to subvert the system by creating nodes with particularly low latency, and keep the results applicable to the real network. Great idea Gavin!

Just something I was wondering about. Would crypto still have become popular without Bitcoin or do you think it was the one thing that made the whole industry possible? Curious to hear your thoughts.

like the title says, im planning to start doing that strategy, just because while looking my finance, is normal that i spend between $50-$400 per day in my week and isn’t notable at all only when im starting to look my finance lol, so i wanted to trick myself that weekly buy of $100 is going to be in BTC until reach 500 each month and then transfer to a external wallet

i starting doing this for a HYSA and so far is good and is growing steady my hysa in 3 month and i didnt noticed

like i know i can make one big buy of $500 one time monthly but it hit my mental mind that i need to give a big amount of money one time in comparison of small chunks

what you guys think?

There's a kind of deadweight loss that exists when an economic exchange can't be fully peer to peer, anonymous, or without a paper trail. We often focus a lot on how to replace normal fiat transactions, but there are so many cool, entirely new things you can do with BTC.

Essentially, whenever you have reservations or artificial barriers in place for completing a transaction, Bitcoin enables a cut and dry value exchange minimizing or even erasing this deadweight loss. No tracking, no security leaks, no authority breathing down your neck, no middle man taking a cut or dictating terms, etc.

First of all, you can buy things online without creating an account, sharing card info, etc. That in itself removes a pretty significant attack vector in case of data breaches.

Several times my CCs have rejected random payments, whereas no one or nothing can stop me from paying a Lightning invoice.

You can pay for completely private and encrypted AI inference, where no one but you sees your input / output.

Other necessary privacy infra, especially VPNs which are seeing massive pressure from governments recently, can now be accessed more securely and anonymously.

We have completely anonymous and censorship-free tipping, crowdfunding, etc. to prevent cancel culture or regulatory burdens from silencing controversial projects, individuals, protests, etc.

While obtaining non-KYC Bitcoin is a challenge, Lightning is fairly private for payments. There are even better privacy solutions that integrate into Lightning as well, such as Fedimint or Cashu, although they have a temporary custodial tradeoff in order to achieve premium privacy.

I think over time as we continue to build out the Bitcoin economy's infrastructure, more and more of these use cases will become apparent.

I'm interested to hear others' thoughts on potential areas where paying with fiat is untenable, but would be viable with BTC.

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Will it be more regulated as time moves on or will governments switch up and start banning it like China?

Governor Josh Stein signed North Carolina House Bill 920 into law on July 8, 2026, after it passed the House 115–0 and the Senate 49–0 and was ratified July 2.

One correction up front: the statute's actual name is the Virtual Currency Kiosk Consumer Protection Act, not a "Bitcoin" act, it covers any cash-to-crypto kiosk, not Bitcoin specifically. In practice, though, Bitcoin is what most of these machines trade, so this is the relevant read for anyone using a kiosk in NC.

What changes, effective January 1, 2027:

• Daily transaction limits: $2,000 for new customers (first transaction within the past 30 days), $5,000 for existing customers.
• Aggregate fees, including spread, capped at 12%, current kiosk fees in the state reportedly run 20–30%, so this is a cut, not a hike.
• A 48-hour hold applies only to a customer's transactions made within their first seven days using a given operator.
• Mandatory interactive fraud-warning screens (10-second minimum display, yes/no scam check) before each transaction, plus a ban on QR-code/barcode login at kiosks.
• Kiosk operators must run blockchain analytics against the destination wallet address before releasing funds, and must hold a state money transmitter license under the Commissioner of Banks.
• Full refund for new customers, or fee refund for existing customers, if a transaction is reported within 30 days and the Commissioner rules it fraudulent.

What it means for self-custody holders: this only touches the kiosk on-ramp/off-ramp — it doesn't touch self-custody, wallets, or on-chain activity directly. The more concrete friction is the wallet-address screening step and the 48-hour hold for first-week users. Cities and counties also keep their zoning authority, so some localities could still restrict kiosks even under this framework.

Worth watching: New Jersey's SB 2141, which would ban kiosks outright rather than regulate them, has passed the full Senate and is sitting in an Assembly committee, not yet law. Indiana, Tennessee, and Minnesota have already enacted outright bans, so NC's regulate-rather-than-ban approach is currently the minority path among 2026 state actions.

What do you think about this news? ????

I was still a teenager and thought this bitcoin thing was cool back then but I didn't know much about how to own 1 btc. I wish I could go back in time lol

I’m very new to crypto investing and I wanna start by slowly getting into crypto. I’ve heard that you should buy on a cold wallet not a hot wallet not sure what that really means but where do you usually recommend buying crypto and holding and ideally if it has an easy way to transfer and liquidate to cash and send to your bank.

Title kind of says it all, if someone hacks your account and sends coins to a rando address you are likely F'ed

If someone hacks your account and sells coins before withdrawing money to your already connected bank account then you at least still have the value in your bank, annoying, but you aren't F'ed

There should be separate limit options for sending and withdrawing, and they might as well allow us to whitelist receiving addresses and bank accounts to allow higher limits to only those addresses or bank accounts

(Obviously any newly created bank account would not get the same limits as a grandfathered in account without additional verification)

Got 9k cash I will dump into bitcoin. what do you think is the best move here?

The sentiment at $120k was “we’re going to $250k.”
The sentiment at $62k is “Bitcoin is dead.”
Same asset.
Keep Stacking!

Why aren’r we all buying a Long Perps position Kalshi/Robbinhood, and then buying that same Crypto currency as well? Isn’t that like a win-win for everyone? If we all do it, we could restore the value of Bitcoin, and we could win the Perps as well. If we needed to liquidate for some reason, we could sell our Long Perps position, and not the coin. This wouldn’t affect the value of the coin, and cause others to panic sell. I know Perps are new, and people are experimenting with it, but isn’t this a win-win? Am I missing something?

Hi,

24M

I would like to get some exposure to crypto and deciding whether to:
- buy BTC through Coinbase/Kraken and transferring to cold wallet
- buy BTC and leave in Coinbase/Kraken
- buy a Bitcoin ETF like FBTC/IBIT

Suppose a few things:
- Intend to hold long term, think 20+ years
- Do not really care about having “full ownership of the BTC”. I know people say “not your keys, not your coins”
- Prefer to not have to physically own cold wallet, unless this form of exposure to crypto has the most likely chance of highest returns
- if ETF, would be in brokerage and not tax advantaged account
- Don’t need to buy on weekends or market after hours. Okay buying jsut during the week and DCA
- Do not intend to do covered calls or anything like that
- Assume Fidelity won’t go under in the next 20 years (I know it could)
- I care about which has the most growth. Ultimately, I’m thinking about “is the juice worth the squeeze” for owning in cold wallet vs buying an ETF

Would love for any advice you all may have

I keep replaying it in my head. I had chances to sell high last year and just... didn't. Told myself I was in it for the long haul, that timing the top was a fool's game, all the usual HODL logic. And on one level I still believe that. But some nights I do the math on what I left on the table and it stings.
I am still a Bitcoin maxi but I'm constantly thinking I could have doubled my BTC in a single year.

For people who've been through a few of these cycles, how do you actually make peace with a decision that felt right at the time but looks wrong in the rearview mirror?

So I have entered into the community by buying some bitcoin initially. My BTC are currently in and exchange platform where I initially invested, so a lot of people are telling me to transfer it to a wallet, what is the difference and which is safer? Which do people use to hold BTC long term and to prevent any kind of corruption of BTC? Please help me as I'm yet a beginner and am juts getting started.

I recently started BTC DCA and plan on holding till another major bull because the current price is below the last bull circle's all time high.

Some analysts shared on X saying below 58k should be when to start DCA but I felt such a point of interest is too ambitious and anything from this current price should be fine if intention is to hold.

I would appreciate to hear your long term plans holding BTC if you are already on DCA like me

Silicon Valley has a new promise for the world. Artificial intelligence will create abundance. Productivity will explode. Scientific discovery will accelerate. Medical breakthroughs will arrive faster. Knowledge work will become dramatically cheaper and more efficient. Economic growth will surge. Humanity, we are told, is standing on the edge of an age of abundance unlike anything in history.
Maybe they’re right.
But if you’re part of the Bitcoin community, you’ve probably learned to become skeptical whenever someone claims that technology alone will solve economic problems. Bitcoiners have spent years questioning assumptions that much of the financial world simply accepted as fact. Unlimited money printing creates prosperity. Debt can grow forever. Asset inflation is a sign of economic health. Central planners can manage complex economies better than markets can. Time and again, Bitcoiners looked at these claims and asked a simple question: compared to what?
The promises surrounding artificial intelligence deserve the same scrutiny.
The reason is simple. We’ve heard this story before.
During the 1990s and early 2000s, globalization and the internet were sold as humanity’s next great leap forward. Trade barriers were falling. The Cold War had ended. China was entering the global economy. Supply chains stretched across continents. The internet connected billions of people for the first time. Economists and political leaders spoke confidently about a future where efficiency, trade, and technology would make everyone wealthier.
The argument sounded straightforward. Move production to wherever it can be done most efficiently. Lower costs. Increase productivity. Expand global trade. Everyone wins.
In many ways, those predictions came true.
Consumer electronics became dramatically cheaper. Clothing became cheaper. Access to information became almost free. A smartphone in your pocket contains more computing power than governments possessed a few decades ago. Global poverty fell significantly. Human beings genuinely became more productive and more technologically capable than any civilization in history.
The abundance was real.
Yet many people in developed economies experienced something very different from the promised future. Housing became more expensive. Healthcare became more expensive. Education became more expensive. Childcare became more expensive. Asset prices rose faster than wages. Stable middle-class jobs became less secure in many communities. For millions of people, the essentials of middle-class life moved further away even as televisions, computers, and consumer goods became cheaper every year.
This wasn’t a failure of productivity. It was a question of distribution.
The gains from globalization arrived. They simply didn’t arrive equally.
Bitcoiners already understand this dynamic better than most people because they have spent years discussing how money moves through an economy. When central banks create new currency, that money does not arrive evenly across society. It enters through governments, banks, financial institutions, and asset markets. Those closest to the source of new money benefit first. Asset prices rise. Stocks rise. Real estate rises. Wages react more slowly. Savings lose purchasing power.
Economists call this the Cantillon Effect.
Bitcoiners simply call it reality.
Now apply the same logic to artificial intelligence.
Who owns the models? Who owns the data centers? Who owns the compute infrastructure? Who owns the robotics companies? Who owns the intellectual property? Who owns the energy infrastructure powering this new economy?
If artificial intelligence dramatically increases productivity, where will those gains accumulate first?
The answer appears obvious.
The owners of productive AI assets will receive the benefits before everyone else.
Just as those closest to the money printer benefited first during the fiat era, those closest to the intelligence infrastructure may benefit first during the AI era.
This may become the biggest misunderstanding surrounding AI. People often assume that productivity automatically creates prosperity. History suggests otherwise.
Imagine a company employing one thousand workers. Artificial intelligence allows that same company to produce the same output with one hundred employees. From an economist’s perspective, this is a tremendous success. Productivity rises. Costs fall. Profits increase. Consumers may benefit from lower prices. GDP rises. Investors celebrate.
But from another perspective, nine hundred workers just lost bargaining power.
The productivity gains still exist. The question is where they went.
This is not a new problem. Mechanized farming reduced agricultural labor. Industrial factories reduced artisan labor. Computers reduced clerical labor. Automation reduced manufacturing labor. Every major technological shift creates winners and losers before society eventually adapts.
The problem is that transitions often take decades.
People do not experience economic change through GDP charts or productivity statistics. They experience it through mortgage payments, rent payments, grocery bills, and healthcare costs. An economy can be booming while households feel financially trapped. Both realities can exist at the same time.
Bitcoiners have long argued that technology is naturally deflationary. Deflation simply means that productivity improvements allow more goods and services to be produced with fewer resources over time. A television that once cost several months of wages can now be purchased after a few days of work. A smartphone contains technologies that would have cost millions of dollars only a generation ago.
Technology constantly pushes prices downward.
Artificial intelligence may become the most deflationary technology humanity has ever created. Software development costs could collapse. Legal research costs could collapse. Design costs could collapse. Customer service costs could collapse. Medical diagnostics could become dramatically cheaper. Education could become more accessible and affordable than at any point in history.
This creates a problem for debt-based monetary systems.
Modern economies are built on continuous expansion of debt and credit. Governments, corporations, and households all rely on future growth to service existing obligations. Deflation makes debts harder to repay because money becomes more valuable over time rather than less valuable.
Bitcoiners have discussed this tension for years.
Artificial intelligence may accelerate it dramatically.
If AI reduces labor demand while simultaneously lowering prices, political pressure for intervention will emerge quickly. Governments rarely tolerate high unemployment. Central banks rarely tolerate deflation. The likely response is not difficult to imagine. More government spending. More debt issuance. More monetary stimulus. More currency creation.
Ironically, AI abundance may lead to more monetary intervention rather than less.
The more productive machines become, the greater the pressure may become to preserve consumer purchasing power through monetary policy.
This creates an unusual future. Machines become more productive. Goods become cheaper. Productivity rises. Yet currencies continue losing purchasing power as governments attempt to stabilize the transition.
Bitcoiners understand this dynamic instinctively.
Industrial capitalism relied on a relatively simple feedback loop. Workers produced goods. Workers earned wages. Workers purchased the goods they produced. Henry Ford famously paid workers enough to purchase the cars they built because production and consumption reinforced one another.
Artificial intelligence may fundamentally challenge this relationship.
If intelligence itself becomes abundant, what happens to labor markets built around selling intelligence?
Software engineering. Accounting. Legal analysis. Marketing. Customer service. Financial analysis. Education. Many of the professions that defined the knowledge economy could become partially automated over time.
This does not mean work disappears.
History suggests new forms of work emerge.
The question is timing.
The people displaced during economic transitions are rarely comforted by promises that future generations will benefit from changes occurring today.
Bitcoin may become increasingly important in this world for reasons that have little to do with speculation. As productivity accelerates, economies need a stable measuring stick. Fiat currencies constantly change in supply. Their purchasing power shifts over time. Their value reflects political incentives as much as economic fundamentals.
Bitcoin operates differently.
Its supply is fixed. Its issuance schedule is transparent. Its monetary policy cannot be altered to respond to political pressure.
In a world experiencing rapid technological deflation alongside aggressive monetary expansion, scarce money may become more important rather than less important.
The more abundant the world becomes, the more valuable scarcity becomes.
Imagine a future where artificial intelligence can create books instantly, music instantly, movies instantly, software instantly, advertisements instantly, and images instantly. Intelligence becomes abundant. Creation becomes abundant. Digital content becomes effectively infinite.
What becomes scarce?
Trust becomes scarce.
Authenticity becomes scarce.
Human attention becomes scarce.
Energy becomes scarce.
Time becomes scarce.
And money that cannot be printed becomes scarce.
Bitcoin’s value proposition may actually strengthen in a world where almost everything else becomes easier to produce.
This remains the central question surrounding artificial intelligence.
Suppose AI creates extraordinary wealth. Who owns the productive assets? Who receives the profits? Who benefits first?
History suggests these questions matter more than the technology itself.
Globalization created abundance. The internet created abundance. Social media created abundance. Cloud computing created abundance.
The question was never whether wealth was created.
The question was where it accumulated.
Bitcoiners are not anti-technology. Bitcoin itself is technology. Many Bitcoiners are among the earliest adopters of artificial intelligence tools and automation systems.
The skepticism runs deeper than that.
Technology changes what civilization can produce.
Money determines how those gains move through society.
The abundance promised by AI may be real. The productivity gains may be extraordinary. Medical breakthroughs may accelerate. Scientific progress may compound faster than at any point in history.
But Bitcoiners have lived through enough monetary experiments to understand something important.
Production is not distribution.
Wealth creation is not wealth participation.
An economy can become richer while citizens feel poorer.
A society can become more productive while households become more financially fragile.
These outcomes are not contradictions.
History suggests they happen more often than we would like to admit.
The promise of AI abundance sounds remarkably similar to the promise of globalization abundance. Both involve extraordinary increases in productivity. Both involve lower costs. Both involve technological transformation. Both promise rising prosperity.
Perhaps this time the outcome will be different.
Perhaps institutions will adapt.
Perhaps the gains will spread more broadly.
Perhaps abundance will become democratic.
Bitcoiners are not rejecting that possibility.
They are simply asking the question history taught them to ask:
Who gets the abundance first?
Because the answer to that question may determine whether artificial intelligence becomes humanity’s greatest prosperity engine or simply the most efficient wealth concentration machine ever created.
Technology determines what is possible.
Money determines who benefits.
The coming decade may be the first time in history where humanity is forced to answer both questions at the same time.

like using iancoleman's solution: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

or just downloading the O.G electrum bitcoin wallet and follow the instructions: https://electrum.org/#download

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Keep stacking sats, especially with these low prices ofcourse.

so I sold around 10-15% of my BTC after overthinking for months, almost a year... and ngl, I thought I'd feel like a calm responsible adult after that. WRONG. Now every green candle makes me feel like I sold the bottom, and every red candle makes me feel like a genius for 7 minutes xD,
still holding around 90-85%, still bullish long term, and still got the mining side running through OneMiners, so I'm not fully out or anything :D

but damn, BTC really has a way of making every decision feel dumb right after u make it lol. maybe that's the real game. not buying, not selling, just trying not to become emotionally cooked by a chart.

anyone else sold a little and somehow became MORE stressed?

i have trust wallet and herd you do not need KYC to send bitcoin depending on how much you send but not sure never sent any before but it asks when trying to buy bitcoin or other crypto for ID i have no ID as i don't drive so have no driver's licence and im not wasting money on a passport just to spend more money on bitcoin as this will be a 1 time use and i will never need to use crypto again

what can i do?

Just curious what price you were hoping for

A reminder, to self custody. Make sure your bitcoin is yours!

Buy bitcoin.

Simple as that.

After the events of October 10, 2025, we can now say with certainty that some Market Manipulation is already taking place within the Bitcoin market and crypto more broadly.

That being said, Bitcoin is purpose built to resist central control by banks, governments, and other centralized regulators. If we can now view market manipulation as a new form of centralized control, it begs the question, can a technology be built into the tech stack of Bitcoin that directly fights the type of Market Manipulation being performed by Wall Street?

Rather than asking the US government to make the manipulation illegal (they wont) can we make the manipulation almost impossible for them to perform by implementing some sort of technology that exposes when they are trying do it or disrupts the process?

Please share your thoughts.

I own the domain bitcoin.guide

I've always thought that a great bitcoin guide deserved to be built on it, and I don't think I'm the right person for this project.

Would love to find a Bitcoin OG who wants to buy the domain and make a project out of it.

I bought this in June of 2019 and will sell for less than what I paid (measured in both btc and usd).

If you're interested feel free to reach out - looking to sell on a marketplace like Sedo rather than direct.

I’m new to Bitcoin and could really use some advice. I need to transfer about $35 worth of Bitcoin to another wallet tonight, but I found out after buying some yesterday that my exchange has a 7-day withdrawal hold. I wasn’t aware of that before making the purchase.

Does anyone know of a legitimate way to get Bitcoin that can be transferred immediately, or have any suggestions for what I can do? If anyone is willing to help, I’d truly appreciate it, but I’m mainly looking for advice and a solution. Thanks in advance.

I gave myself an impossible brief: Uniformise the B. ecosystem's main design assets and logo. I wanted to create the simplest, most basic, and complete resource of design assets for Bitcoin because I’m tired of downloading the same logo from random websites or creating SVGs from scratch. I wanted people to be able to find all the resources in one file (Figma & GitHub) and, as much as possible, standardise some components. There was no good solution, just a long chain and succession of trade-offs. It's like rebranding 10 brands at once; there is no choice that won't leave someone unsatisfied. The file is in “Beta” so you can review it. Hot topics:

• Bitcoin logo should be different (but really similar) to the B. currency symbol. It is already like that in many products, but I wanted to remark the difference
• I love the idea of talking only about Bitcoin and not Sats. I know the Bitcoin community spent effort on this, but personally I think we lost that battle. “I will zap you some sats” is already here, used commonly. I’m just trying to fix it by proposing a symbol for sats. I know there have been other proposals in the past, but I’m sceptical about that; too cryptic.
• Cashu currently has a very detailed, complex logo; I’m proposing a simplified, more banal version.
• I also proposed a logo for Ark.

Main questions: Should I keep my proposal for Cashu or the old version? I would like to avoid Nostr and Cashu having different colours in the negative version; should I go with white, or do you have any other suggestions? Does anyone know if the DLC project is still on and how to get the vector logo? Are there any logos or technologies missing that are important to add? No wallets, only technology logos. Any missing version of the logo that you think important to include? Should I also include the most popular wallet in V2?

https://www.figma.com/design/icmH1QEg9lFtj9pgW9D3tl/Bitcoin-ecosystem--logos-and-design-kit?node-id=0-1&t=h0ci1j2j6LcjshmE-1

been several months since blockchain (infamously) locked my account for KYC which has been succesfull and yet still blocked.

From the emails it seems like Blockchain starting 1 July 2026 (last week) has migrated to a specific UK entity, did anyone managed to get their account unlocked since then?

Has anyone tried to file a complain to the FCA?

to the one stupid unemployed idiot who'll certainly be like "WhY yOu USeD BloCkChaIN"
go get a job

I came to USA in a student visa just to study Austrian Economics and take part in Bitcoin Conferences. I am now enrolled in MS in Business Analytics. I am working on few papers on Bitcoin’s Hash Rate and such. I am so done with formal education, but everything about Bitcoin is so cool. I am gonna graduate in this December, 2026. I am very eager to work in a Bitcoin Company. I would love to work in River Financial or Swan Bitcoin. I love Bitcoin and everything it has to offer to this dollar world.

I'm trying to invest into other assets as have many people adviced. So just for my inspirqtion and information (roughly) what percentage of your investments is in BTC, stocks, ETF's, other crypto or any other type.

Hi everyone,

I’ve spent a lot of time engaging with Bitcoin over the past five years, and now I want to make my own contribution to the space. After consuming countless podcasts, books, and so on, I found myself going deeper and deeper down the "time" rabbit hole—exploring the nature of time and its fundamental importance in the financial world and our society at large (calendars).

Alongside my fascination with Bitcoin, I have a passion for watches, and I’d like to combine the two. I want to create the first digital Bitcoin wristwatch. I’d like to base the design on the Casio A168WA. It would display the block height, the time until the next block, and the current epoch.

My question for you all is: would you wear or buy a watch like this? Or am I the only one? Thanks!

EDIT 1:

Thanks for the feedback—that’s awesome! To be honest, I thought I’d get completely torn apart here, but it looks like there are actually a few people interested.

So, I’d like to go into a bit more detail and address your objections and questions :)

In my post, I mentioned that I wanted to base the design on the Casio A168W. That’s only half the story, though; I actually want to model the design after the Omega Equinoxe. In other words, a "Reverso"-style watch: a simple yet elegant analog dial on the front, and a display on the back showing the block height, epoch, and other details. (Since I’m right at the beginning of this idea, I mentioned the Casio because I already have some concepts for how I could "quickly" build a watch like that for myself.)

To clarify how the Casio would work: it would naturally display the standard time, but you could switch between the different display modes by pressing the bezel.

Regarding the design, I wouldn't put a Bitcoin symbol on it; the watch should be something like a gadget—or ideally, an artifact—for Bitcoiners. It should be wearable without being immediately recognizable to the uninitiated—sort of a "quiet luxury" vibe.

Another idea, to align with the general Bitcoin ethos, was to sell the watch for a fixed BTC price that never changes. This way, early adopters benefit... plus, it would allow the purchase block to be permanently stored on the watch and retrieved later. (I know this borders on a "measuring contest," but I’d think it was cool to see exactly when the watch was bought—and having proof of ownership is common in the watch community, something the blockchain handles perfectly.)

First and foremost, though, I’d aim to build an MVP; these are just general ideas I’d love to get feedback on—including, or especially, negative feedback! Thanks, guys! :D

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